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Open-mindedness
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The terms "good" and "bad" in the way I meant them was more along the lines of who was and wasn't considered to be open minded.

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Yeah, because he was addressing about a specific group of people who believe in the paranormal.

The message applies to everyone, religious and non-religious alike, as we all have a tendency to think in a "non-openminded" way.


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That's what I said, it was slanted, lol.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:56 am on July 5, 2009

That's what I said, it was slanted, lol.


It is an inaccuracy of language to suggest that something which has a "target audience" is-- in virtue of that-- biased ["slanted"]

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Quote: from Blackadder at 7:28 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:56 am on July 5, 2009

That's what I said, it was slanted, lol.

 
It is an inaccuracy of language to suggest that something which has a "target audience" is-- in virtue of that-- biased ["slanted"]


So when you're "preaching to the choir", it's not biased (slanted), then? As long as I'm talking to a theist, whatever I may say about an atheist can be accurately described as "fair and balanced". That's good to know.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:39 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Blackadder at 7:28 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:56 am on July 5, 2009

That's what I said, it was slanted, lol.
 

 
 It is an inaccuracy of language to suggest that something which has a "target audience" is-- in virtue of that-- biased ["slanted"]


So when you're "preaching to the choir", it's not biased (slanted), then? As long as I'm talking to a theist, whatever I may say about an atheist can be accurately described as "fair and balanced". That's good to know.

Strawman argument.


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Quote: from Praise the Lard at 11:17 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:39 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Blackadder at 7:28 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:56 am on July 5, 2009

That's what I said, it was slanted, lol.

   
  It is an inaccuracy of language to suggest that something which has a "target audience" is-- in virtue of that-- biased ["slanted"]


So when you're "preaching to the choir", it's not biased (slanted), then? As long as I'm talking to a theist, whatever I may say about an atheist can be accurately described as "fair and balanced". That's good to know.

Strawman argument.


How can it be 'strawman' when it's simply responding directly to the same point? You should have called it on Blackadder... he's the one that brought up "target audience". Or is this just more of the atheist bs?

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Again, "advocating a position" is not "biased". If I put forward the true evidence for the Holocaust, this does not mean that I am biased against Holocaust deniers. It just means that I am presenting the evidence. In fact, I would be unbiased in this case.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:27 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Praise the Lard at 11:17 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:39 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Blackadder at 7:28 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:56 am on July 5, 2009

That's what I said, it was slanted, lol.
   

     
  It is an inaccuracy of language to suggest that something which has a "target audience" is-- in virtue of that-- biased ["slanted"]


So when you're "preaching to the choir", it's not biased (slanted), then? As long as I'm talking to a theist, whatever I may say about an atheist can be accurately described as "fair and balanced". That's good to know.

 

 Strawman argument.


How can it be 'strawman' when it's simply responding directly to the same point? You should have called it on Blackadder... he's the one that brought up "target audience". Or is this just more of the atheist bs?

sorry misread both your posts

Not really sure what blackadder's point is. this move doesn't have a target audience. Not one important to this discussion anyway.


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Quote: from Moridin at 8:25 am on July 6, 2009

Again, "advocating a position" is not "biased". If I put forward the true evidence for the Holocaust, this does not mean that I am biased against Holocaust deniers. It just means that I am presenting the evidence. In fact, I would be unbiased in this case.
Not a very good analogy.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 3:39 am on July 6, 2009

Quote: from Blackadder at 7:28 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:56 am on July 5, 2009

That's what I said, it was slanted, lol.
 

 
 It is an inaccuracy of language to suggest that something which has a "target audience" is-- in virtue of that-- biased ["slanted"]


So when you're "preaching to the choir", it's not biased (slanted), then? As long as I'm talking to a theist, whatever I may say about an atheist can be accurately described as "fair and balanced". That's good to know.

I have no fucking clue what this example is supposed to mean.



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Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:47 pm on July 6, 2009

Quote: from Moridin at 8:25 am on July 6, 2009

Again, "advocating a position" is not "biased". If I put forward the true evidence for the Holocaust, this does not mean that I am biased against Holocaust deniers. It just means that I am presenting the evidence. In fact, I would be unbiased in this case.
Not a very good analogy.

Why not? Do you think that presenting evidence for something is the same as being biased?

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Quote: from Blackadder at 10:53 am on July 6, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 3:39 am on July 6, 2009

Quote: from Blackadder at 7:28 pm on July 5, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:56 am on July 5, 2009

That's what I said, it was slanted, lol.

   
  It is an inaccuracy of language to suggest that something which has a "target audience" is-- in virtue of that-- biased ["slanted"]


So when you're "preaching to the choir", it's not biased (slanted), then? As long as I'm talking to a theist, whatever I may say about an atheist can be accurately described as "fair and balanced". That's good to know.

I have no fucking clue what this example is supposed to mean.  


You said, if the message is aimed at a "target audience", it is inaccurate to suggest it could be biased ("slanted"). Mine was an example of a "target audience".

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The video was a touch one sided. It could've, for complete fairness, included at least one example of a close-minded denier of the paranormal. That probably would've helped drive the point home to more of the audience.

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I didn't like that the video shows that the only way to be an open minded person is being an atheist...

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