Remember, the foundations of true National Socialism - which the NSDAP wasn't really - isn't built on, surrounded by, or even related to hate.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Remember, the foundations of true National Socialism - which the NSDAP wasn't really - isn't built on,

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surrounded by, or even related to hate.

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But then again if you are the only true national socialist (since you couldn't point to any other true national socialist than you) who knows.

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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Haha what a liar.

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They are closer to socialism than you think. And yes they are surrounded by hate of other races.
But then again if you are the only true national socialist (since you couldn't point to any other true national socialist than you) who knows.

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National Socialism has nothing to do with "Hate" at all.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Quote: from Angry Kumquat at 1:22 pm on July 4, 2009

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Quote: from HarrySunderland at 11:20 am on July 4, 2009

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Powerful speaker, damned lucky, somewhat good militarily.

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 Somewhat good? He managed to take over half of Europe. If the US hadn't stepped in, he would have taken over all of it.

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If you knew anything about WW2 you'd realize that Hitler was perhaps the biggest military fuck up of the 20th century. It was his fault the war was lost, entirely irrevocably his.

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Biggest military fuck up? Try Vietnam or the soviet war in Afghanistan.

Hitler wasn't the most apt military strategist, but until he got over-confident in his armies, everything was going fine.

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"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to
those of us who do."

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What is the lie?

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I personally know other National Socialists if you would like to speak to them.

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Quote: from Joep0113 at 11:46 am on July 7, 2009

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Quote: from Angry Kumquat at 1:22 pm on July 4, 2009

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Quote: from HarrySunderland at 11:20 am on July 4, 2009

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Powerful speaker, damned lucky, somewhat good militarily.

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  Somewhat good? He managed to take over half of Europe. If the US hadn't stepped in, he would have taken over all of it.

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If you knew anything about WW2 you'd realize that Hitler was perhaps the biggest military fuck up of the 20th century. It was his fault the war was lost, entirely irrevocably his.

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Biggest military fuck up? Try Vietnam or the soviet war in Afghanistan.

Hitler wasn't the most apt military strategist, but until he got over-confident in his armies, everything was going fine.

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It was his fault they didn't finish off the British Expeditionary Forces and other free forces at Dunkirk.

His fault the MP44, worlds first assault rifle, wasn't put into production earlier. Why? Because it was ugly.

His fault the ME-262, worlds first jet fighter, was postponed to the point where it couldn't be mass produced and completely useless.

It was his fault that Afrika Corps lost and his fault they weren't allowed to cross back into Sicily.

His fault they invaded Russia early
- His fault they didn't even prepare to send winter uniforms
- His fault the German army still relied mainly on horses for transportation of supplies
- His fault the German 6th army couldn't pull back at Stalingrad
- His fault he killed hundreds of thousands of his own troops not allowing them to fall back
- His fault he let the SS kill the millions of russians that wanted to sign up and take down Bolsheviek russia
- His fault he rushed the Panzer VI (Tiger tanks) into Kursk to fight there instead of prefecting it.

His fault they allied with Italy
- His fault they tied down Panzer divisions in Yugoslavia and Greece because the Italian army was to incompetant to do it by themselves. If they had those divisions they would have rolled right through Moscow and Leningrad.

His fault Operation Overlord and D-Day were allied victory's by requiring the only and best Panzer divisions to be activated by himself only instead of storming the beaches and driving them back.

Hitler was a horrible military general, he should have left the military affairs to the military instead of trying to control everything. To say otherwise is just pure ignorance. I won't doubt he was a great statesman and good at building up a nation and improving the economy...but the military...horrible failure.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:45 pm on July 7, 2009

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What is the lie?

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NSDAP was NOT founded on national Socialism????  

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I personally know other National Socialists if you would like to speak to them.

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What is the name of their group?

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So today's National Socialists believe something different than what Nazi Germany did.

Very different.

The NSDAP besmirched National Socialism and added numerous other ideologies into it.

They are not in a group. You don't have to be in a group to be a NS.

EDIT: And it seems hate is only BY the Nazis, not towards them

*Points to sig*
Good ol' Weasel!

Post edited at 6:26 pm on July 7, 2009 by kidd rune

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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NSDAP was not founded on true National Socialism of today.

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Whats the criteria?


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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

We were talking in the present day. You said "Neo-nazis and National Socialists are still around and spewing their hate." indicating today.

Actual National Socialists aren't haters - or if they are, it's unrelated. National Socialism isn't a hate-centered ideology.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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The ideology has changed.

We were talking in the present day. You said "Neo-nazis and National Socialists are still around and spewing their hate." indicating today.

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

The NSDAP isn't true National Socialism because it contradicts numerous ideals in National Socialism. They disarmed their civilians, yet actual NSism would never do such a thing.

Check the thread on NSism I made.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Hitler should have been president of 6 nations Russia. United states France Switzerland china japan.

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