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Quote: from static nightmare at 3:13 am on July 8, 2009

So basically you are saying that the morality of something has nothing to do with its consequences?

If by this you mean that I don't practice some form of teleological ethics, then that is correct.

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But does God look at how it impacts the world?  I'm thinking God just sees the sin, not the Earthly repercussions.  Then again, I don't even pretend to understand the 'mind' of God.

What does God see?  I imagine He sees everything.  It seems logical to me that God is intimately concerned with the created order and what occurs here.  He created it after all.

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tell me again


Does this statement compare the various categories of sins, or various possible sinful acts?

I only agree if it's the latter.

I'm not sure what the former refers to, but it is the latter.  As far as I know, I only conceive of "sin" as individual acts.


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Quote: from Tavis at 9:03 pm on July 7, 2009

I disagree. What makes you think that they aren't all technologically equal?
haha *teleological, it just means things that require context. ontological just means.. well it doesn't really mean much, tbh. lol You would think that if God assigns certain attributes or characteristics to sin that he would also be capable of assigning a value to it.

Then again, I don't even pretend to understand the 'mind' of God.
I tend to agree more with this.

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Quote: from Prince o palities at 6:01 pm on July 7, 2009

All sins are ontologically but not teleologically equal.

I want to change the word 'sin' into 'transgressions against society' and agree with your posit.  Please direct me to this same wisdom in the Bible...I seemed to have missed it.

Great philosophical question!

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Its all in context, mainly your personal views. Hence this thread

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So why did I do it? I could offer a million answers, all false.
The truth is that I'm a bad person, but that's going to change.
I'm going to change.

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Quote: from Prince o palities at 4:01 am on July 8, 2009

All sins are ontologically but not teleologically equal.

So you are merely asserting that consequentialism is false without so much as a shred of evidence? This is pretty sad, even for you.  

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Quote: from Prince o palities at 6:14 am on July 8, 2009

Quote: from static nightmare at 3:13 am on July 8, 2009

So basically you are saying that the morality of something has nothing to do with its consequences?

If by this you mean that I don't practice some form of teleological ethics, then that is correct.

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icantthinkofaname


But does God look at how it impacts the world? I'm thinking God just sees the sin, not the Earthly repercussions. Then again, I don't even pretend to understand the 'mind' of God.

What does God see? I imagine He sees everything. It seems logical to me that God is intimately concerned with the created order and what occurs here. He created it after all.

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tell me again


Does this statement compare the various categories of sins, or various possible sinful acts?
 
I only agree if it's the latter.

I'm not sure what the former refers to, but it is the latter. As far as I know, I only conceive of "sin" as individual acts.



Sorry it took a while, and that I'm to lazy just to quote my section.
Anyway, but does it not also seem logical, that to an all perfect being, bad is bad?  No degrees, no levels, just bad?  All bad is the worst, all bad is... the opposite of worst (though best doesn't fit?)?

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