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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Dismissal


Nineteenth-century agnostic Robert G. Ingersoll branded Revelation "the insanest of all books".Thomas Jefferson omitted it along with most of the Biblical canon, from the Jefferson Bible, and wrote that at one time, he "considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/devil.html
http://www.constitution.org/tj/jeff16.htm

You see what I did there? I selected an interpretation that fitted my a priori ideology without substantial argumentation.

By the way, you still have not replied to my refutation of your false characterization of my position on abortion. Just thought id add this if you want to take up the topic again, or if you prefer just to avoid it like the plague due to the fact that your argument had no intellectual merit.

Post edited at 10:57 am on July 6, 2009 by Moridin

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Quote: from Moridin at 1:55 pm on July 6, 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Dismissal


Nineteenth-century agnostic Robert G. Ingersoll branded Revelation "the insanest of all books".Thomas Jefferson omitted it along with most of the Biblical canon, from the Jefferson Bible, and wrote that at one time, he "considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/devil.html
http://www.constitution.org/tj/jeff16.htm

You see what I did there? I selected an interpretation that fitted my a priori ideology without substantial argumentation.

By the way, you still have not replied to my refutation of your false characterization of my position on abortion. Just thought id add this if you want to take up the topic again, or if you prefer just to avoid it like the plague due to the fact that your argument had no intellectual merit.


Moridin, I've grown to avoid discussion with you. There are some people, when you talk to them, you just leave feeling dirty. It is that special combination of tactics and tenacity that leave a grimy sensation.

You produce that sensation, as do the most ignorant of creationists and the most ravenous of racial or sexual bigots.

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Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 9:35 pm on July 6, 2009

Quote: from Moridin at 1:55 pm on July 6, 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Dismissal  

 


Nineteenth-century agnostic Robert G. Ingersoll branded Revelation "the insanest of all books".Thomas Jefferson omitted it along with most of the Biblical canon, from the Jefferson Bible, and wrote that at one time, he "considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."
 

 http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/devil.html  
 http://www.constitution.org/tj/jeff16.htm  

 You see what I did there? I selected an interpretation that fitted my a priori ideology without substantial argumentation.  

 By the way, you still have not replied to my refutation of your false characterization of my position on abortion. Just thought id add this if you want to take up the topic again, or if you prefer just to avoid it like the plague due to the fact that your argument had no intellectual merit.


Moridin, I've grown to avoid discussion with you. There are some people, when you talk to them, you just leave feeling dirty. It is that special combination of tactics and tenacity that leave a grimy sensation.

You produce that sensation, as do the most ignorant of creationists and the most ravenous of racial or sexual bigots.


TheOtherHorseman, your reaction is a very common attitude for a person when confronted with evidence against their ideology. They try to rationalize the failure of their worldview by blaming the one who refuted it. Don't you understand that you are behaving in exactly the same way as creationist or racist bigots do when they are disproved? They simply assert that they are not going to discuss it any longer, takes their football and goes home in a last desperate effort to save face. A face already filled with tears of impotent rage and desperation.

The immaturity of your worldview speaks for itself; I will accept that post as your concession in this discussion. Remember that it was you that refused to have a rational discussion about abortion. It was you who tried to play the hurt feelings card in this discussion. It was you who insistingly made straw mans out of your opponents position and it was you who acted like you had not.

Your debate mentality represents a lot of things I find despicable; the unwillingness to reconsider your position, the unwillingness to consider evidence, the unwillingness to have a rational discussion and the unwillingness to accurately represents your opponents argument.

Most encounters with you also leaves a bitter aftertaste in my mouth. Not because of the fact that you disagree with my positions, because I wholeheartedly support your right to do so. Not because of the fact that your arguments are falsehoods, but because of your systematic unwillingness for everything that is rational. A person who shows just a disregard for rationality and proper rational discussion is a very sad person.

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1 point to TOH for refusing to engage a slimeball.

0 points to Moridin for refusing to admit that he is a slimeball.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 11:13 pm on July 6, 2009

1 point to TOH for refusing to engage a slimeball.

0 points to Moridin for refusing to admit that he is a slimeball.


Personal attacks, so professional of you. The evidence is here for all to see that TheOtherHorseman, in the close-minded bigotry that is his position regarding abortion, refuses a calm and rational argument or to be held accountable for the straw man he has erected.

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Straw man that you have erected, you mean.

TOH is simply not lowering himself to your level, and frankly, I can't blame him. You're definitely one of the worst debaters on this site, if not the worst, as you know exactly what you're doing wrong and do it anyway.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 11:45 pm on July 6, 2009

Straw man that you have erected, you mean.

TOH is simply not lowering himself to your level, and frankly, I can't blame him. You're definitely one of the worst debaters on this site, if not the worst, as you know exactly what you're doing wrong and do it anyway.


Yet you are unable to refute a single one of the arguments that I have presented. That says more about you my dear than it does about me.

Do take a look at the argument myself and Wilder is having about Pantheism, which is perfectly honest and calm discussion.

http://golivewire.com/forums/peer-ynboeyo-support-a.html

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I wasn't interested in refuting your arguments; I barely even read them. I'm more interested in the fact that you're a very bad debater.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 11:50 pm on July 6, 2009

I wasn't interested in refuting your arguments; I barely even read them. I'm more interested in the fact that you're a very bad debater.

So you admit that you barely read my arguments, yet continue to make posts against me? That is by definition the admission of a very bad debater.

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I'd say that the definition of a bad debater is one who makes constant fallacies in his arguments, knowing full well that they are fallacies (and decrying others who make them), but claiming that he's allowed to do so because he's "right." It really has little to do with this thread at all, and everything to do with your habits in every. other. thread.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 11:55 pm on July 6, 2009

I'd say that the definition of a bad debater is one who makes constant fallacies in his arguments, knowing full well that they are fallacies (and decrying others who make them), but claiming that he's allowed to do so because he's "right." It really has little to do with this thread at all, and everything to do with your habits in every. other. thread.

Name one single instance when I have done this. I dare you. You can't, can you? I thought so.

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http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-ynnebas-support-a.html
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-ynbiips-support-a.html
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-ynnynob-support-a.html
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-ynopist-support-a.html

Just for starters.

I could go way back, but I really don't care enough to do so. Suffice it to say that I can't really blame TOH for not engaging in discussion with you; I don't know why I bother myself.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:01 am on July 7, 2009

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-ynnebas-support-a.html
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-ynbiips-support-a.html
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-ynnynob-support-a.html
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-ynopist-support-a.html

Just for starters.

I could go way back, but I really don't care enough to do so. Suffice it to say that I can't really blame TOH for not engaging in discussion with you; I don't know why I bother myself.


Where exactly have I done this? Chapter and verse please.

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Read the damned threads yourself, I really do not care enough to sit here and write a dissertation on why you suck. You know where your errors are.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:10 am on July 7, 2009

Read the damned threads yourself, I really do not care enough to sit here and write a dissertation on why you suck. You know where your errors are.

So you are unable to find a single example of what you claim that I do?  

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