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If god is real(Question)
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I am not saying that he isn't real. There's one thing I don't understand though. If he punishes those who don't have faith in him or believe he is real then why couldn't he just automatically make people have faith in him? I mean he never showed himself to us, he left written records which leave people puzzled to if he exists? I am trying to make this sound the least rude as possible because if he is real I don't want him to be angry at me for questioning him. My point is. If he punishes those who don't have faith in him, why can't he appear in front of us and destroy all doubt of his existence?

Post edited at 8:14 am on July 9, 2009 by Moonscar

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Because that defeats the purpose of faith.

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Telling people that God punishes those that done beileve in him makes people beileve in him. More so in ancient times.

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Because then there won't be believers and non-believers...this is the test.

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Quote: from Porn Store Stiffi at 8:15 am on July 9, 2009

Because that defeats the purpose of faith.

I never knew you had to not see someone to have faith in them.

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Because that would actually make sense.

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I get the impression that you are very interested in covering all your bases.  You don't want to say on 2012 one way or the other just in case.  You don't want to commit one way or the other on God just in case.  At some point in your life, you're going to have to take a stand on something or your life will come to an end empty and meaningless.

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Quote: from My Dreams WILL Wait at 8:16 am on July 9, 2009

Because then there won't be believers and non-believers...this is the test.

I know but if he is God and created us. Why not just make us automatically have faith in him? I mean if he created us with human nature of course people are going to be skeptical of things they don't see. If you give someone the choice to have faith or not have faith, then don't make good evidence of yourself, it would seen kind of unfair to place judgment on the skeptical wouldn't it?

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Quote: from Moonscar at 11:16 am on July 9, 2009

Quote: from Porn Store Stiffi at 8:15 am on July 9, 2009

Because that defeats the purpose of faith.

I never knew you had to not see someone to have faith in them.


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Quote: from Prince o palities at 8:19 am on July 9, 2009

I get the impression that you are very interested in covering all your bases. You don't want to say on 2012 one way or the other just in case. You don't want to commit one way or the other on God just in case. At some point in your life, you're going to have to take a stand on something or your life will come to an end empty and meaningless.

With things like religion you never know for sure. I have faith in a higher being that much I will say.

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What does it mean to "have faith" in a undefined, unrevealed higher being?

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Quote: from Moonscar at 8:19 am on July 9, 2009

Quote: from My Dreams WILL Wait at 8:16 am on July 9, 2009

Because then there won't be believers and non-believers...this is the test.

I know but if he is God and created us. Why not just make us automatically have faith in him? I mean if he created us with human nature of course people are going to be skeptical of things they don't see. If you give someone the choice to have faith or not have faith, then don't make good evidence of yourself, it would seen kind of unfair to place judgment on the skeptical wouldn't it?  


He gave us the choice

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Quote: from Prince o palities at 8:22 am on July 9, 2009

What does it mean to "have faith" in a undefined, unrevealed higher being?

I don't know. We have to come from somewhere. It's possible that someone created us. I am leaning more towards the higher being philosophy. You can't expect me to have a strong stance on only one thing. With things like religion, philosophy and higher forces, I don't like saying what's wrong and what's right if I don't know for sure. I wouldn't say " faith" I guess. I am saying for people who believe in different Gods. With all these different religions brought to us, why should the people who don't follow Christianity or whatever be persecuted? I'm sure God would be more understanding of the scenario.




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