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What is a 'Sin' and what is 'Moral'
Can you define the differences?
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Theist define behaviors that would separate a person from God as 'Sin.' Can anyone list all these 'sins?' Is morality defined by not committing any of these 'sins?' Can anyone, that is not Christian, be moral? Is 'non-belief' a sin?

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Morals, ethics, right, wrong...it's all lies.

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Can anyone who is not Christian be moral? What kind of bullshit question is that? You don't need to believe in some fantasy of God to be a good person, and lead a good, moral life. Non-belief is not a sin, it's called being open minded, surely that should be rewarded.

This topic is silly.

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I think morality is just an opinion

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Quote: from Natsy at 9:46 am on July 8, 2009

I think morality is just an opinion

I agree. There hasn't ever been one single moral everyone's agreed on.

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A sin is anything that separates us from God. There is only one way to eternal life and that is in the belif and relationship with the ultimate lover, God.

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Quote: from ScarletsWalk at 11:48 am on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Natsy at 9:46 am on July 8, 2009

I think morality is just an opinion
 

I agree. There hasn't ever been one single moral everyone's agreed on.


That would be because not everyone has an uncorrupted moral compass.

Post edited at 1:39 pm on July 8, 2009 by Forever Angel

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I feel as though I am stepping into a quagmire, but...


Theist define behaviors that would separate a person from God as 'Sin.' Can anyone list all these 'sins?'

I can't list every sin. I do, however, have access to the tools for determining with some degree of certainty whether or not something is a sin (as do we all).


Is morality defined by not committing any of these 'sins?'

Not anymore than the absence of debt makes one rich. A better way to understand it would be to say that immorality is defined as committing sins.


Can anyone, that is not Christian, be moral?

In the ultimate sense, no one can be moral, Christian or otherwise. On a more practical level, anyone can be moral, Christian or otherwise.


Is 'non-belief' a sin?

That is a good question, an authoritative answer for which I don't presume to have. I tend to understand unbelief not as a sin but as the state of being in which one has no hope of the remission of sin. Unbelief then is ultimately more hazardous than sin itself.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:17 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from ScarletsWalk at 11:48 am on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Natsy at 9:46 am on July 8, 2009

I think morality is just an opinion

I agree. There hasn't ever been one single moral everyone's agreed on.


That would be because not everyone has an uncorrupted moral compass.


no, it's just that there are always exceptions to rules and "morals" and no one agrees on which exceptions are acceptable; killing for example. Some believe it's always wrong, others say if a person did something terrible (e.g. rape, homicide, etc) it's ok to kill them under those circumstances.
Your morals are different from ine and probably every single person out there.

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Quote: from Natsy at 5:09 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:17 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from ScarletsWalk at 11:48 am on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Natsy at 9:46 am on July 8, 2009

I think morality is just an opinion
   

 I agree. There hasn't ever been one single moral everyone's agreed on.


That would be because not everyone has an uncorrupted moral compass.


no, it's just that there are always exceptions to rules and "morals" and no one agrees on which exceptions are acceptable; killing for example. Some believe it's always wrong, others say if a person did something terrible (e.g. rape, homicide, etc) it's ok to kill them under those circumstances.
Your morals are different from ine and probably every single person out there.

How about murder?

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 11:14 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Natsy at 5:09 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:17 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from ScarletsWalk at 11:48 am on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Natsy at 9:46 am on July 8, 2009

I think morality is just an opinion

  I agree. There hasn't ever been one single moral everyone's agreed on.


That would be because not everyone has an uncorrupted moral compass.

 
 no, it's just that there are always exceptions to rules and "morals" and no one agrees on which exceptions are acceptable; killing for example. Some believe it's always wrong, others say if a person did something terrible (e.g. rape, homicide, etc) it's ok to kill them under those circumstances.  
 Your morals are different from ine and probably every single person out there.

How about murder?


murder=homicide

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Quote: from Natsy at 5:33 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 11:14 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Natsy at 5:09 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:17 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from ScarletsWalk at 11:48 am on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Natsy at 9:46 am on July 8, 2009

I think morality is just an opinion
     

  I agree. There hasn't ever been one single moral everyone's agreed on.


That would be because not everyone has an uncorrupted moral compass.


  no, it's just that there are always exceptions to rules and "morals" and no one agrees on which exceptions are acceptable; killing for example. Some believe it's always wrong, others say if a person did something terrible (e.g. rape, homicide, etc) it's ok to kill them under those circumstances.
  Your morals are different from ine and probably every single person out there.

How about murder?


murder=homicide

Yes... ? How many "moral" people would disagree that murder is wrong?

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Quote: from Natsy at 6:33 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 11:14 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Natsy at 5:09 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:17 pm on July 8, 2009

Quote: from ScarletsWalk at 11:48 am on July 8, 2009

Quote: from Natsy at 9:46 am on July 8, 2009

I think morality is just an opinion
     

  I agree. There hasn't ever been one single moral everyone's agreed on.


That would be because not everyone has an uncorrupted moral compass.


 no, it's just that there are always exceptions to rules and "morals" and no one agrees on which exceptions are acceptable; killing for example. Some believe it's always wrong, others say if a person did something terrible (e.g. rape, homicide, etc) it's ok to kill them under those circumstances.
 Your morals are different from ine and probably every single person out there.

How about murder?


murder=homicide

Lets say someone breaks into my house and puts a gun to my wife's head and says kill me or she dies and I know he's a serial killer and will do it.  If I shoot him is that as bad of as if I go out and kill a random person for no reason other then I feel like it?

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in the bible is the 10 commandments. if you disobey any of those commandments it is considered a sin. morality is just your personal opinion. whatever values you have in life. those are your morals. what you live up to. and if you have "non beliefs" then obviously sins do not apply because you dont belive in such a thing.

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