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We shouldn't be basing today's morals and ideals based on what they did yesterday.

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Quote: from musicfan3 at 11:46 am on June 26, 2009

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Teens aren't capable of truly caring for another life.

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Teenagers were expected to be parents for most of history.

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right... back before people regularly lived past the age of forty. this is a stupid argument.

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right... back before people regularly lived past the age of forty.

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Also the argument that teens were expected to have chilern in the past is irrelevant.  Not only was the life expectancy shorter girls were raised to raise babies.  From a young age they we're out in charge of sometime multiple children.  They were expected to be nothing more than parents and were trained so to speak for that.  Teens now are no where near that a majority of the time.  Many times a teen parent has never even healf a baby until the give birth.  

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Quote: from KawaiiNekoKonnichiwa at 11:50 am on June 26, 2009

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Quote: from musicfan3 at 11:46 am on June 26, 2009

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Teens aren't capable of truly caring for another life.

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 Teenagers were expected to be parents for most of history.

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We shouldn't be basing today's morals and ideals based on what they did yesterday.

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Exactly.

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Quote: from JennyColada at 11:52 am on June 26, 2009

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We shouldn't be basing today's morals and ideals based on what they did yesterday.

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I was only pointing out how absurd it is to claim that "teens aren't capable of truly caring for another life" in light of all the historical success teens have had in parenting.

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Teens are selfish. Teens don't have the kind of responsibilities that they did "historically" .Times change and so do those responsibilities.

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Quote: from KawaiiNekoKonnichiwa at 1:56 pm on June 26, 2009

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Quote: from JennyColada at 11:52 am on June 26, 2009

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We shouldn't be basing today's morals and ideals based on what they did yesterday.

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 I was only pointing out how absurd it is to claim that "teens aren't capable of truly caring for another life" in light of all the historical success teens have had in parenting.

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Teens are selfish. Teens don't have the kind of responsibilities that they did "historically" .Times change and so do those responsibilities.

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Not true. There are many countries where young girls are expected to have children by 20/ and not all teens are irresponsible and raised in the spoiled American fashion. I was a teen mother and I'm doing really well.

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Quote: from Anonymous at 11:43 am on June 26, 2009

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and how old is considered too young to have a kid?

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My mom was 19 and I still think that was too young.  

I'd say 21, but that's still pushing it.

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I was 22 when I had bridger. And he was welcomed into an amazing home. I was married and we were trying for a child. We were in a great place at that point. He is in the army and I am a pharmacist, and we have a good enough income to raise a family.

So I really think that the age depends on what situation you are in at the time you get pregnant. Though I really think that anyone under 20 shouldn't get pregnant no matter what situation, but mistakes happen. And I only say that because up until that point you have so much going on. You are in school, or what not and it really isn't the time or place for a chile. But Mistakes do happen, and Kudos to those who deal with the mistake and take care of your child. Kudos. If your child it happy, healthy, loved, clothed, and fed then you are good to go. And even though it may not be the BEST situation possible I have respect for those who stand by what they did and deal with the consequence.

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Quote: from KawaiiNekoKonnichiwa at 1:56 pm on June 26, 2009

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Quote: from JennyColada at 11:52 am on June 26, 2009

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We shouldn't be basing today's morals and ideals based on what they did yesterday.

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  I was only pointing out how absurd it is to claim that "teens aren't capable of truly caring for another life" in light of all the historical success teens have had in parenting.

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 Teens are selfish. Teens don't have the kind of responsibilities that they did "historically" .Times change and so do those responsibilities.

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Not true. There are many countries where young girls are expected to have children by 20/ and not all teens are irresponsible and raised in the spoiled American fashion. I was a teen mother and I'm doing really well.

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Those are countries where poverty is high and education is not always available. In these types of countries because education is not always readily and always available to where people can afford it, women are not given the skills to have a career. In America women have options and that means the opportunity to better themselves.

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Quote: from Chava at 10:32 pm on July 1, 2009

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Quote: from musicfan3 at 1:24 pm on July 1, 2009

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Quote: from KawaiiNekoKonnichiwa at 1:56 pm on June 26, 2009

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Quote: from JennyColada at 11:52 am on June 26, 2009

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We shouldn't be basing today's morals and ideals based on what they did yesterday.

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  I was only pointing out how absurd it is to claim that "teens aren't capable of truly caring for another life" in light of all the historical success teens have had in parenting.

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  Teens are selfish. Teens don't have the kind of responsibilities that they did "historically" .Times change and so do those responsibilities.

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 Not true. There are many countries where young girls are expected to have children by 20/ and not all teens are irresponsible and raised in the spoiled American fashion. I was a teen mother and I'm doing really well.

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Those are countries where poverty is high and education is not always available. In these types of countries because education is not always readily and always available to where people can afford it, women are not given the skills to have a career. In America women have options and that means the opportunity to better themselves.

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Quote: from Mein Alias at 2:48 pm on June 26, 2009

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Quote: from Anonymous at 11:43 am on June 26, 2009

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and how old is considered too young to have a kid?

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 My mom was 19 and I still think that was too young.  

 I'd say 21, but that's still pushing it.

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I was 22 when I had bridger. And he was welcomed into an amazing home. I was married and we were trying for a child. We were in a great place at that point. He is in the army and I am a pharmacist, and we have a good enough income to raise a family.

 So I really think that the age depends on what situation you are in at the time you get pregnant. Though I really think that anyone under 20 should get pregnant no matter what situation, but mistakes happen.

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You weren't a pharmacist when you had bridger at 22 were you?  I thought it was a 6 year degree required which would mean 24 so were you in school for it then and now are a pharmacist.  Or maybe you skipped grades.  I know this is off topic, I'm just curious since I was thining about dropping pre-med and going for pharmacy.

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Quote: from musicfan3 at 1:24 pm on July 1, 2009

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Quote: from KawaiiNekoKonnichiwa at 1:56 pm on June 26, 2009

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Quote: from JennyColada at 11:52 am on June 26, 2009

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We shouldn't be basing today's morals and ideals based on what they did yesterday.

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  I was only pointing out how absurd it is to claim that "teens aren't capable of truly caring for another life" in light of all the historical success teens have had in parenting.

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  Teens are selfish. Teens don't have the kind of responsibilities that they did "historically" .Times change and so do those responsibilities.

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 Not true. There are many countries where young girls are expected to have children by 20/ and not all teens are irresponsible and raised in the spoiled American fashion. I was a teen mother and I'm doing really well.

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Those are countries where poverty is high and education is not always available. In these types of countries because education is not always readily and always available to where people can afford it, women are not given the skills to have a career. In America women have options and that means the opportunity to better themselves.

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So just because women have the opportunity to better themselves it makes them too good to have children. Personally I was put on earth to be a mother. I've always known it and I've been prepared for it by taking care of my brother and sister, watching my cousins (one is mentally challenged) and I don't mean for an hour or two. I have my cousins (ages 1,3,and 5) for two and three weeks at a time at 14. My parents taught me how to cook and alot of other neccesarry skills. I've been doing my own laundry since I was 6 or 7. And yes being a mother is alot different than babysitting but I can't say that watching my aunt and uncle raise their boys and watching them myself hasn't helped. Since when has bearing children been looked down on? I would be perfectly fine being a SAHM but I'm still going to go to college and I'm working. I have plans and goals but my #1 is to have 5-7 children and raise them into fine young men and women.

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