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Replies: 23 — Last Post July 10 2:06pm by BleedingSteelWings
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Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:59 pm on July 10, 2009
If god has a plan, then we have no free will, and thus no reason to live.

We have free will to follow him or walk away.

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Quote: from Rachelw at 10:10 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:59 pm on July 10, 2009
If god has a plan, then we have no free will, and thus no reason to live.

We have free will to follow him or walk away.

But if he has a plan, then we have no choice. God is supposed to know all. So he knows what we are going to do. So we really have no free will. That is, IF he has a plan.

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And you, demon, what do you have faith in?
Nothing. I am so exquisitely empty
10:14 am on July 10, 2009 | Joined: April 2007 | Days Active: 547
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BleedingSteelWings

Omnipotent One 		Reply
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:44 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Rachelw at 10:10 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:59 pm on July 10, 2009
If god has a plan, then we have no free will, and thus no reason to live.
 

 We have free will to follow him or walk away.

But if he has a plan, then we have no choice. God is supposed to know all. So he knows what we are going to do. So we really have no free will. That is, IF he has a plan.

plus if we walk away we apparently are thrown to hell.
so that's kind of scaring us into following him.
therefore not exactly free will

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For you these wings bleed my enemies' blood
so I may one day fly...
10:23 am on July 10, 2009 | Joined: Sep. 2008 | Days Active: 316
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Wealthy Hobo 		Reply
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 1:23 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:44 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Rachelw at 10:10 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:59 pm on July 10, 2009
If god has a plan, then we have no free will, and thus no reason to live.

  We have free will to follow him or walk away.

But if he has a plan, then we have no choice. God is supposed to know all. So he knows what we are going to do. So we really have no free will. That is, IF he has a plan.

plus if we walk away we apparently are thrown to hell.
so that's kind of scaring us into following him.
therefore not exactly free will

its still a free will. Your choice to do what God wants and follow him or you could just walk away.

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Inside every boy there is a lordly lion ready to prance

10:24 am on July 10, 2009 | Joined: Oct. 2008 | Days Active: 226
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BleedingSteelWings

Omnipotent One 		Reply
Quote: from Rachelw at 2:54 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 1:23 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:44 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Rachelw at 10:10 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:59 pm on July 10, 2009
If god has a plan, then we have no free will, and thus no reason to live.
   

  We have free will to follow him or walk away.

But if he has a plan, then we have no choice. God is supposed to know all. So he knows what we are going to do. So we really have no free will. That is, IF he has a plan.
 
 plus if we walk away we apparently are thrown to hell.  
 so that's kind of scaring us into following him.  
 therefore not exactly free will

its still a free will. Your choice to do what God wants and follow him or you could just walk away.


But who believing this would walk away to face unjust eternal punishment? its not free will unless the punishment is temporary and for education.

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For you these wings bleed my enemies' blood
so I may one day fly...
10:28 am on July 10, 2009 | Joined: Sep. 2008 | Days Active: 316
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MushroomSatsujin


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Quote: from Rachelw at 10:24 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 1:23 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:44 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Rachelw at 10:10 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:59 pm on July 10, 2009
If god has a plan, then we have no free will, and thus no reason to live.
   

  We have free will to follow him or walk away.

But if he has a plan, then we have no choice. God is supposed to know all. So he knows what we are going to do. So we really have no free will. That is, IF he has a plan.
 
 plus if we walk away we apparently are thrown to hell.  
 so that's kind of scaring us into following him.  
 therefore not exactly free will

its still a free will. Your choice to do what God wants and follow him or you could just walk away.

So do what I say or suffer for eternity?

I think they have a word for that kind of method.

Its called terrorism

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And you, demon, what do you have faith in?
Nothing. I am so exquisitely empty

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BleedingSteelWings

Omnipotent One 		Reply
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 3:00 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Rachelw at 10:24 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 1:23 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:44 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Rachelw at 10:10 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:59 pm on July 10, 2009
If god has a plan, then we have no free will, and thus no reason to live.

   We have free will to follow him or walk away.

But if he has a plan, then we have no choice. God is supposed to know all. So he knows what we are going to do. So we really have no free will. That is, IF he has a plan.

  plus if we walk away we apparently are thrown to hell.
  so that's kind of scaring us into following him.
  therefore not exactly free will
 

 its still a free will. Your choice to do what God wants and follow him or you could just walk away.

So do what I say or suffer for eternity?

I think they have a word for that kind of method.

Its called terrorism


couldn't have said it better myself.

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For you these wings bleed my enemies' blood
so I may one day fly...
10:37 am on July 10, 2009 | Joined: Sep. 2008 | Days Active: 316
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Wealthy Hobo 		Reply
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 1:37 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 3:00 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Rachelw at 10:24 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 1:23 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:44 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Rachelw at 10:10 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:59 pm on July 10, 2009
If god has a plan, then we have no free will, and thus no reason to live.
     

Its completly your own free choice you can choose to walk with God and have Everlasting life or walk away and live a cold a purposeless life.

    We have free will to follow him or walk away.

But if he has a plan, then we have no choice. God is supposed to know all. So he knows what we are going to do. So we really have no free will. That is, IF he has a plan.
   
  plus if we walk away we apparently are thrown to hell.    
  so that's kind of scaring us into following him.    
  therefore not exactly free will

  its still a free will. Your choice to do what God wants and follow him or you could just walk away.

So do what I say or suffer for eternity?  

 I think they have a word for that kind of method.  

 Its called terrorism


couldn't have said it better myself.


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Inside every boy there is a lordly lion ready to prance
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BleedingSteelWings

Omnipotent One 		Reply
Quote: from Rachelw at 5:43 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 1:37 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 3:00 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Rachelw at 10:24 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 1:23 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:44 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Rachelw at 10:10 am on July 10, 2009
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:59 pm on July 10, 2009
If god has a plan, then we have no free will, and thus no reason to live.

Its completly your own free choice you can choose to walk with God and have Everlasting life or walk away and live a cold a purposeless life.

    We have free will to follow him or walk away.

But if he has a plan, then we have no choice. God is supposed to know all. So he knows what we are going to do. So we really have no free will. That is, IF he has a plan.

   plus if we walk away we apparently are thrown to hell.
   so that's kind of scaring us into following him.
   therefore not exactly free will
   

  its still a free will. Your choice to do what God wants and follow him or you could just walk away.

So do what I say or suffer for eternity?

  I think they have a word for that kind of method.

  Its called terrorism

 
 couldn't have said it better myself.

whats that?

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For you these wings bleed my enemies' blood
so I may one day fly...
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