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dtrm is leaking

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Alot of people have imaginary friends.

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Quote: from SovSull at 6:00 pm on July 10, 2009

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dtrm is leaking

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Maybe a first? I agree with you.

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At the moment enjoy the lolz and making fun at the believers.

Post edited at 4:26 pm on July 10, 2009 by Aristocrat

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Typical atheist taking a cheap shot at the believers ironic.  They think they are smart but when the day come we shall see who are indeed the real losers.

At the moment enjoy the lolz and making fun at the believers.

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And a lot of people think they know so much more than anyone else.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:17 am on July 11, 2009

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And a lot of people think they know so much more than anyone else.

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People who think they know who created the universe and why, the purpose of humanity, the absolute moral truth, and the nature of ultimate reality claim far more than those who think the aforementioned group are mistaken.

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It matters not the number of claims made. Only the attitude of superiority expressed in the claims. The OP here is a fine example.

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"God does not play dice" - Albert Einstein
"God does play dice" - Stephen Hawking

Bohica

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Quote: from SpM at 6:33 pm on July 10, 2009

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:17 am on July 11, 2009

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And a lot of people think they know so much more than anyone else.

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 People who think they know who created the universe and why, the purpose of humanity, the absolute moral truth, and the nature of ultimate reality claim far more than those who think the aforementioned group are mistaken.

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You seem intent on picking a fight with me. Why is that?  

It matters not the number of claims made. Only the attitude of superiority expressed in the claims. The OP here is a fine example.

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and you also.

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Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 6:39 pm on July 10, 2009

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and you also.

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An explanation would help here...

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You seem intent on picking a fight with me. Why is that?

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It matters not the number of claims made. Only the attitude of superiority expressed in the claims. The OP here is a fine example.

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To say that a being whose existence is completely unsupported by empirical evidence is non-existent is to make a modest claim.

To say that a being whose existence is completely unsupported by empirical evidence does exist is anything but modest, and claiming to know what this being has done in the past and wants in the future, and proclaiming that the fate of all existence, including our own illustrious species, is bound up inextricably in this tale is to make an extraordinary claim.

The only reason your religion does not cause irrepressible laughter in all who come across it is the social conditioning which has rendered it seemingly plausible. Not that that means it's certainly false, of course. Just somewhat barmy and not to be advanced without due caution.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:38 am on July 11, 2009

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It matters not the number of claims made. Only the attitude of superiority expressed in the claims. The OP here is a fine example.

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Superiority and self-assurance can be more or less justified. In cases where one is probably right, it is fairly excusable. In cases where one's claims are wildly improbable, it is anything from laughable to intolerable.

To say that a being whose existence is completely unsupported by empirical evidence is non-existent is to make a modest claim.

To say that a being whose existence is completely unsupported by empirical evidence does exist is anything but modest, and claiming to know what this being has done in the past and wants in the future, and proclaiming that the fate of all existence, including our own illustrious species, is bound up inextricably in this tale is to make an extraordinary claim.

The only reason your religion does not cause irrepressible laughter in all who come across it is the social conditioning which has rendered it seemingly plausible. Not that that means it's certainly false, of course. Just somewhat barmy and not to be advanced without due caution.

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The only claims I make are those of my belief. It doesn't bother me that you may disagree. What bothers me is that so many who do disagree, feel it makes them superior and me (and/or those who believe as I do), inferior. It does not make them right or even probably right.

When you find that there is empirical evidence for everything you believe, then you can look down on those of faith. However, at that point you'll probably find you have lost all human qualities and values.

If the only reason you suppress your laughter is because of social conditioning, please see a therapist to help you over that.

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"God does play dice" - Stephen Hawking

Bohica

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When you find that there is empirical evidence for everything you believe, then you can look down on those of faith. However, at that point you'll probably find you have lost all human qualities and values.

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So you are saying that reason and rationality is not even a value? How far can you sink in your desperate attempt to hold on to primitive iron age mythology?

Arguing with Forever Angel is pretty much banging your head against a wall since you do not even agree with the fundamentals, such as reason being a value.

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shoreline of wonder" (Ralph W. Sockman)

I believed in santa and god when I was little, then I became older, smarter with a strong mind, and got common sense.

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You may call me Tara.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 3:27 am on July 11, 2009

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When you find that there is empirical evidence for everything you believe, then you can look down on those of faith. However, at that point you'll probably find you have lost all human qualities and values.

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So you are saying that reason and rationality is not even a value? How far can you sink in your desperate attempt to hold on to primitive iron age mythology?

Arguing with Forever Angel is pretty much banging your head against a wall since you do not even agree with the fundamentals, such as reason being a value.

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