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Replies: 134 — Last Post July 25 7:57pm by LogicandReason
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Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 4:45 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:14 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from S0LITUDE at 6:39 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:34 am on July 11, 2009
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     Just look around you. Nothing came from nothing it had to be created.

where did God come from?
     

    He has always been.

But surely if he has always been, the samething could be said about the universe.
At the moment, science says no.
I was only following the person's logic that certain things "could just be"

  I'm not sure about what exactly science says about it. I don't necessarily find the scientific explanation to be satisfying :/

Science often is less than satisfying. That's why it's so hard to be successful when criticizing believers in God.

because they can come up with any stupid reason to believe.

That is not true. We do have a reason to believe.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:44 am on July 11, 2009
Science often is less than satisfying. That's why it's so hard to be successful when criticizing believers in God.

The fact that Science does not answer everything, does not make faith true or satysfying in any way.

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Quote: from belizabeth at 1:44 am on July 11, 2009

It is even science proves God is real.

how exciting

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Quote: from S0LITUDE at 6:47 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:44 am on July 11, 2009
Science often is less than satisfying. That's why it's so hard to be successful when criticizing believers in God.

The fact that Science does not answer everything, does not make faith true or satysfying in any way.

For YOU, maybe. But does putting down those that do have faith give you sufficient satisfaction?

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Quote: from belizabeth at 1:45 am on July 11, 2009

That is not true. We do have a reason to believe.

I don't think the person was saying you don't have a reason

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:50 am on July 11, 2009

.For YOU, maybe. But does putting down those that do have faith give you sufficient satisfaction?
never enough. It's never enough

Post edited at 4:51 pm on July 10, 2009 by S0LITUDE

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Quote: from S0LITUDE at 9:20 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from belizabeth at 1:45 am on July 11, 2009

 That is not true. We do have a reason to believe.

I don't think the person was saying you don't have a reason

I was simply saying that most reasons are very personal and haev no bearing on fact.

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Quote: from S0LITUDE at 4:50 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from belizabeth at 1:45 am on July 11, 2009

 That is not true. We do have a reason to believe.

I don't think the person was saying you don't have a reason

In a lot of ways you did.

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Origin theories are speculation as is God.  People created God to answer questions they could not (and in the case of Origin, can not) answer.  Most people believe in God due to inculcation and some due to fear.  If Jesus were so real, why are people in Iraq, India, China and other places so confused?

We are here and that proves origin...nothing more.



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Quote: from belizabeth at 1:51 am on July 11, 2009
Quote: from S0LITUDE at 4:50 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from belizabeth at 1:45 am on July 11, 2009
 

  That is not true. We do have a reason to believe.

I don't think the person was saying you don't have a reason

In a lot of ways you did.

this is about me now? :S

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Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 6:45 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:14 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from S0LITUDE at 6:39 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:34 am on July 11, 2009
Quote: from S0LITUDE at 6:31 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from belizabeth at 1:29 am on July 11, 2009
Quote: from S0LITUDE at 4:29 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from belizabeth at 1:03 am on July 11, 2009

     Just look around you. Nothing came from nothing it had to be created.

where did God come from?
     

    He has always been.

But surely if he has always been, the samething could be said about the universe.
At the moment, science says no.
I was only following the person's logic that certain things "could just be"

  I'm not sure about what exactly science says about it. I don't necessarily find the scientific explanation to be satisfying :/

Science often is less than satisfying. That's why it's so hard to be successful when criticizing believers in God.

because they can come up with any stupid reason to believe.
*sniff, sniff* I smell envy in this post.

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"God does play dice" - Stephen Hawking

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( belizabeth )


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Quote: from S0LITUDE at 4:52 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from belizabeth at 1:51 am on July 11, 2009
Quote: from S0LITUDE at 4:50 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from belizabeth at 1:45 am on July 11, 2009

  That is not true. We do have a reason to believe.

I don't think the person was saying you don't have a reason
 

 In a lot of ways you did.

this is about me now? :S

No. sorry.

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Quote: from LogicandReason at 4:51 pm on July 10, 2009
Origin theories are speculation as is God. People created God to answer questions they could not (and in the case of Origin, can not) answer. Most people believe in God due to inculcation and some due to fear. If Jesus were so real, why are people in Iraq, India, China and other places so confused?

We are here and that proves origin...nothing more.


why are u so confuzed?  The dead sea scrolls proves jesus

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:22 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 6:45 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:14 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from S0LITUDE at 6:39 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:34 am on July 11, 2009
Quote: from S0LITUDE at 6:31 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from belizabeth at 1:29 am on July 11, 2009
Quote: from S0LITUDE at 4:29 pm on July 10, 2009
Quote: from belizabeth at 1:03 am on July 11, 2009
       

      Just look around you. Nothing came from nothing it had to be created.

where did God come from?

    He has always been.

But surely if he has always been, the samething could be said about the universe.
At the moment, science says no.
I was only following the person's logic that certain things "could just be"    

  I'm not sure about what exactly science says about it. I don't necessarily find the scientific explanation to be satisfying :/

Science often is less than satisfying. That's why it's so hard to be successful when criticizing believers in God.
 
 because they can come up with any stupid reason to believe.
*sniff, sniff* I smell envy in this post.

I smell nitpicking and the itch for a fight.
YOu should get your nose checked.
What I'm feeling is far from envy.

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Quote: from BleedingSteelWings at 6:53 pm on July 10, 2009
I smell nitpicking and the itch for a fight.
YOu should get your nose checked.
What I'm feeling is far from envy.
You were the one that started this exchange, not me.

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