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You can still learn tho. But God did do it. NO WAY could so much energy just all of a sudden happen so that the universe is created. something has to make the energy. its not random. And you should know what you beleive and stand up for it.

   I believe the energy was constant.
   Nothing has to make the energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed. Its a little thing called Thermodynamics, brother. You need to give a better argument.

   

     
  the second law of thermodynamics-requires usable energy to continually decrease and for the universe to become more random and disorganized    

  If this has happend for ever then there would be no energy now.



  Who said it wasnt getting more random and disorganized? Youre missing the bigger picture.

 

 
 energy is used up. You DO loose energy. mater cant be created or destroyed but energy IS used up.  If this has been using energy to crash and re-big bang then it would use incredible amounts of energy! you can not create any more energy than is availible.    

 What is organization in a universe we cant even begen to understand?  

 What is the bigger picture?



tsc-tsc-tsc. You're using your non-understanding as a sadly misplaced invitation to ignorance.
Just because YOU dont understand it doesnt mean that others cant.
Plus there is another theory. The Multiverse.

now your changeing subjects? hmm why not keep defending your self?


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Quote: from S0LITUDE at 4:36 pm on July 10, 2009

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 Well that could be a possibility but he is real.


I was not arguing about his existence. I was talking about the fact that you said there was no other explanation than God creating everything. I'm glad you have accepted the possibility, that just like God could just be, so could the universe, meaning that God is not the only explanation, and that the argument that God created everything is not any more satisfying or enlightening to the question "where did we come from?"

Actually it is enlightening.

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    Just look around you. Nothing came from nothing it had to be created.


where did God come from?

   

  He has always been.


But surely if he has always been, the samething could be said about the universe.

At the moment, science says no.

That is the truth.



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   Just look around you. Nothing came from nothing it had to be created.


where did God come from?

  He has always been.


But surely if he has always been, the samething could be said about the universe.

At the moment, science says no.

I was only following the person's logic that certain things "could just be"

I'm not sure about what exactly science says about it. I don't necessarily find the scientific explanation to be satisfying :/

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I am 17 years old arguing college students. I think I can hold my own thanks.

And God IS real and Did create the universe


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Quote: from belizabeth at 1:38 am on July 11, 2009

Actually it is enlightening.


In what way?

Post edited at 4:40 pm on July 10, 2009 by S0LITUDE

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In the way that it explains a lot of things when you add God to the equation.

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Quote: from steath at 1:39 am on July 11, 2009

I am 17 years old arguing college students. I think I can hold my own thanks.

And God IS real and Did create the universe


simply stating something does not make it true or credible. Maybe you have a little evidence?

Post edited at 4:42 pm on July 10, 2009 by S0LITUDE

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Quote: from steath at 9:09 pm on July 10, 2009

I am 17 years old arguing college students. I think I can hold my own thanks.  

And God IS real and Did create the universe



sigh...
everyone's so sure of themselves.


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In the way that it explains a lot of things when you add God to the equation.
It's not enlightening since most of those things are rarely credible.

post 69 :D

Post edited at 4:43 pm on July 10, 2009 by S0LITUDE

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I am 17 years old arguing college students. I think I can hold my own thanks.  

And God IS real and Did create the universe


simply stating something does not make it true or credible. Maybe you have a little evidence?

then all the theries are junk. When it comes down to it there is NO explaination for creation with an acctual cause.


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In the way that it explains a lot of things when you add God to the equation.
It's not enlightening since most of those things are rarely credible.

It is even science proves God is real.

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    Just look around you. Nothing came from nothing it had to be created.


where did God come from?

   

  He has always been.


But surely if he has always been, the samething could be said about the universe.

At the moment, science says no.

I was only following the person's logic that certain things "could just be"

I'm not sure about what exactly science says about it. I don't necessarily find the scientific explanation to be satisfying :/


Science often is less than satisfying. That's why it's so hard to be successful when criticizing believers in God.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:14 pm on July 10, 2009

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    Just look around you. Nothing came from nothing it had to be created.


where did God come from?

   He has always been.


But surely if he has always been, the samething could be said about the universe.

At the moment, science says no.

I was only following the person's logic that certain things "could just be"  

 I'm not sure about what exactly science says about it. I don't necessarily find the scientific explanation to be satisfying :/


Science often is less than satisfying. That's why it's so hard to be successful when criticizing believers in God.


because they can come up with any stupid reason to believe.

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Quote: from steath at 1:43 am on July 11, 2009

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Quote: from steath at 1:39 am on July 11, 2009

I am 17 years old arguing college students. I think I can hold my own thanks.  

 And God IS real and Did create the universe


simply stating something does not make it true or credible. Maybe you have a little evidence?

then all the theries are junk. When it comes down to it there is NO explaination for creation with an acctual cause.


theories usually have some evidence. They're not just statements.

If there's no explanation, then there's no explanation. How does that support your claim that God created everything? It seems to go against the whole "there's no explanation" statement

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