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hell does not exist. i believe that when you die. there's nothing.

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thats pretty depressing. so rotting in the ground for a couple years then peace out? dont think so

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Quote: from Leahxox at 11:17 pm on July 10, 2009

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I mean burning by yourself forever with unfathomable pain? like legit FOREVER. that scares me. i dont know why people wouldnt just have a relationship with Christ. It would just make your life better anyways.

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 This argument is meaningless to someone who doesn't believe in the Bible.  If I told you that I was absolutely sure that the god Eremolet would punish you forever if you didn't give me $1000 by tomorrow, would you do it "just in case"?  No, because you'd feel like you were being manipulated. (though feel free to prove me wrong)

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yeah but that is just dumb. the Bible has been around for thousands of year, the prophecies within it are coming true, and there really was a man named Jesus who died on a cross, and how else do you explain the world..evolution doesnt cut it for me. and faith has changed many people's lives.

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there were other beliefs before someone decided to believe in "God" and "Jesus".

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yeah but that is just dumb. the Bible has been around for thousands of year,

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Roman mythology has been around longer.

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the prophecies within it are coming true,

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No, they're not.

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and there really was a man named Jesus who died on a cross,

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Lots of good people were crucified in ancient times for their religious beliefs.

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and how else do you explain the world..evolution doesnt cut it for me.

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This is because you don't understand evolution, at least not in detail.

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and faith has changed many people's lives.

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And yet there's no compelling evidence to show that religions featuring "hell" change peoples lives in a better way than other systems of belief that don't feature hell.

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Quote: from telomere13 at 8:19 pm on July 10, 2009

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Quote: from Leahxox at 11:17 pm on July 10, 2009

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I mean burning by yourself forever with unfathomable pain? like legit FOREVER. that scares me. i dont know why people wouldnt just have a relationship with Christ. It would just make your life better anyways.

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  This argument is meaningless to someone who doesn't believe in the Bible. If I told you that I was absolutely sure that the god Eremolet would punish you forever if you didn't give me $1000 by tomorrow, would you do it "just in case"? No, because you'd feel like you were being manipulated. (though feel free to prove me wrong)

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 yeah but that is just dumb. the Bible has been around for thousands of year, the prophecies within it are coming true, and there really was a man named Jesus who died on a cross, and how else do you explain the world..evolution doesnt cut it for me. and faith has changed many people's lives.

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there were other beliefs before someone decided to believe in "God" and "Jesus".

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God & Jesus (who are the same person) have existed since the beginning of time. Adam & Eve? Moses? Other ones have died out but this one has still stayed around.

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I mean burning by yourself forever with unfathomable pain? like legit FOREVER. that scares me. i dont know why people wouldnt just have a relationship with Christ. It would just make your life better anyways.

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Quote: from Leahxox at 11:22 pm on July 10, 2009

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yeah but that is just dumb. the Bible has been around for thousands of year,

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Roman mythology has been around longer.

when is Poseidon coming out of the water?
no one believes that crap.

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the prophecies within it are coming true,

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No, they're not.
um yes they are.

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and there really was a man named Jesus who died on a cross,

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Lots of good people were crucified in ancient times for their religious beliefs.
its too much of a coincedence

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and how else do you explain the world..evolution doesnt cut it for me.

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This is because you don't understand evolution, at least not in detail.

a big bang and the whole world happened? or we come from monkeys? rightttt

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and faith has changed many people's lives.

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And yet there's no compelling evidence to show that religions featuring "hell" change peoples lives in a better way than other systems of belief that don't feature hell.

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adam and eve and moses are part of your religion. they are not gods. idiot.

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i was pointed out that Christianity existed since the beginning of the world. where did i say they were gods? hmm

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Quote: from sperm at 8:27 pm on July 10, 2009

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adam and eve and moses are part of your religion. they are not gods. idiot.

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i was pointed out that Christianity existed since the beginning of the world. where did i say they were gods? hmm

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and how old is the world, in your opinion?
were the dinosaurs and cavemen christians too?

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and, nobody had any idea of what hell looked like before a poet decided to explain it in a story. it is nowhere in the bible that people who 'go to hell' are burned for eternity and suffer immense amounts of pain and torture based on the sins they committed in life.
the idea of what hell contains is made up, in the mind of authors who wrote about it first, and encouraged the idea through an extremely good story that is quite entertaining. but before that, pictures of 'satan' were much different. he was not depicted as someone who reigned over a fiery inferno, like you think.

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hell was written about in the God inspired Bible. not a poet. and the Bible is the Word of God and truth.

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adam and eve and moses are part of your religion. they are not gods. idiot.

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 i was pointed out that Christianity existed since the beginning of the world. where did i say they were gods? hmm

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and how old is the world, in your opinion?
were the dinosaurs and cavemen christians too?

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i believe dinosaurs existed not that long ago. the world isnt that old.

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when is Poseidon coming out of the water?  
no one believes that crap.

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That's exactly the point. Length of existence is not truth.  

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the prophecies within it are coming true,

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No, they're not.

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um yes they are.  

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Name one.

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its too much of a coincedence

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That a real person's life would be embellished to make them more legendary? This happens all of the time with historical figures.

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a big bang and the whole world happened? or we come from monkeys? rightttt

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Get back to me when you can explain either of these things in scientific terms. There's no point in arguing about evolution with someone who doesn't know why evolution works.

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Quote: from sperm at 8:29 pm on July 10, 2009

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and, nobody had any idea of what hell looked like before a poet decided to explain it in a story. it is nowhere in the bible that people who 'go to hell' are burned for eternity and suffer immense amounts of pain and torture based on the sins they committed in life.  
 the idea of what hell contains is made up, in the mind of  authors who wrote about it first, and encouraged the idea through an extremely good story that is quite entertaining. but before that, pictures of 'satan' were much different. he was not depicted as someone who reigned over a fiery inferno, like you think.

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hell was written about in the God inspired Bible. not a poet. and the Bible is the Word of God and truth.

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find me the passage in the bible that describes hell as a fiery inferno then.

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Quote: from SomeRandomKid at 8:21 pm on July 10, 2009

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hell does not exist. i believe that when you die. there's nothing.

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thats pretty depressing. so rotting in the ground for a couple years then peace out? dont think so

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There's a lot of people who view not existing at all as a form of heaven.

Edit I don't mean people suffering horribly I mean whole religions based on the idea, for example Buddhism.

Post edited at 8:34 pm on July 10, 2009 by Dexter Ward