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3800 FTW

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@Ford Tempo Faggot...

"Those four speeds"

Really? There's several versions of "those four speeds" so you might wanna clarify..

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....I'll just stick to my old tank. 1977 Chevrolet Monte Carlo. Bought 'er for $2500 cdn. and she's never given me any problems. Only 60, 000 miles on 'er too.

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Quote: from 3800 FTW at 9:14 am on July 11, 2009

@Ford Tempo Faggot...

"Those four speeds"

Really? There's several versions of "those four speeds" so you might wanna clarify..


lmfao.

Here is it all clarified, since you can't understand.

Typically problematic GM transmissions:

  • 4L60-E/4L65-E (most GM trucks and SUVs, 1992+)
  • 4L85-E (Chevy Suburban, Avalanche, some commercial vehicles)
  • 4T60-E (almost every GM sedan after 1992)

    I believe the 4T60 is what sits in the Malibu, but don't quote me on that. From a time frame starting around 1992 until the past wave of five and six speeds, GM had bad luck with their 4spd automatics. I know from personal experience. Eric knows from personal experience, having had his 4spd rebuilt, what, twice now? In under 150,00 miles? I even went to a GM fan (aka. "enthusiast") forum a while back asking about the 4L60-E and its issues, and hell, GM FAN BOYS started ripping on these things! We're talking about biased-as-hell fans, and even they recognize these thing's weaknesses.

    @OP: Point is, short term the Malibu is a decent machine. Don't expect to get six digit mile figures out of that transmission though. Its not that they can't, but don't count on it.


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    dude, eric thrashs hes impala on a daily basis im sure that has to do with 90% of the reason why it needed a rebuild.


    10:56 pm on July 12, 2009 | Joined: April 2006 | Days Active: 876
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    3800 FTW

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    Quote: from FTF at 3:01 pm on July 11, 2009

    Quote: from 3800 FTW at 9:14 am on July 11, 2009

    @Ford Tempo Faggot...  

     "Those four speeds"  

     Really? There's several versions of "those four speeds" so you might wanna clarify..


    lmfao.

    Here is it all clarified, since you can't understand.

    Typically problematic GM transmissions:

  • 4L60-E/4L65-E (most GM trucks and SUVs, 1992+)
  • 4L85-E (Chevy Suburban, Avalanche, some commercial vehicles)
  • 4T60-E (almost every GM sedan after 1992)

    I believe the 4T60 is what sits in the Malibu, but don't quote me on that. From a time frame starting around 1992 until the past wave of five and six speeds, GM had bad luck with their 4spd automatics. I know from personal experience. Eric knows from personal experience, having had his 4spd rebuilt, what, twice now? In under 150,00 miles? I even went to a GM fan (aka. "enthusiast") forum a while back asking about the 4L60-E and its issues, and hell, GM FAN BOYS started ripping on these things! We're talking about biased-as-hell fans, and even they recognize these thing's weaknesses.  

    @OP: Point is, short term the Malibu is a decent machine. Don't expect to get six digit mile figures out of that transmission though. Its not that they can't, but don't count on it.


  • Stfu.

    PS, you're forgetting the 4T65E and 65E HD, and also the 60 HD.



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    3800 FTW

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    Quote: from emo sux69 at 10:56 pm on July 12, 2009

    dude, eric thrashs hes impala on a daily basis im sure that has to do with 90% of the reason why it needed a rebuild.




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    11:56 pm on July 12, 2009 | Joined: Mar. 2009 | Days Active: 166
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    Quote: from 3800 FTW at 11:54 pm on July 12, 2009

    Quote: from FTF at 3:01 pm on July 11, 2009

    Quote: from 3800 FTW at 9:14 am on July 11, 2009

    @Ford Tempo Faggot...

      "Those four speeds"

      Really? There's several versions of "those four speeds" so you might wanna clarify..


    lmfao.  

     Here is it all clarified, since you can't understand.  

     Typically problematic GM transmissions:  
     

  • 4L60-E/4L65-E (most GM trucks and SUVs, 1992+)  
     
  • 4L85-E (Chevy Suburban, Avalanche, some commercial vehicles)  
     
  • 4T60-E (almost every GM sedan after 1992)  

     I believe the 4T60 is what sits in the Malibu, but don't quote me on that. From a time frame starting around 1992 until the past wave of five and six speeds, GM had bad luck with their 4spd automatics. I know from personal experience. Eric knows from personal experience, having had his 4spd rebuilt, what, twice now? In under 150,00 miles? I even went to a GM fan (aka. "enthusiast") forum a while back asking about the 4L60-E and its issues, and hell, GM FAN BOYS started ripping on these things! We're talking about biased-as-hell fans, and even they recognize these thing's weaknesses.

     @OP: Point is, short term the Malibu is a decent machine. Don't expect to get six digit mile figures out of that transmission though. Its not that they can't, but don't count on it.


  • Stfu.  

    PS, you're forgetting the 4T65E and 65E HD, and also the 60 HD.  

     


    The 4T65 is just a heavy duty version of the 4T60, amirite?

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    Giggity


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    TSX would be the best option, but you are not going to find a decent one under 6k.  Closer to 10.

    You can't go wrong with a Civic.  Not the most exciting, but it is a great car.  The new Malibu is nice, but I personally would avoid the previous ones.  A Focus (bit small) or Altima are my other two recs


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