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Certain parts of the bible are taken out of their intended context. Also: Christians- The old testament can't be used to call things sin. Sure, it's a good guideline to live by, and it give us more information on God, but it's not our covenant. It's the old covenant for the jews, but when they broke it, it was no longer a... well... a covenant. It didn't matter. God made a new covenant with us, that he delivered through the new testament. Just think... If we still lived by old testament standards, we wouldn't eat pork, we'd all be circumcised, stuff like that. Understand what I mean?
Okay. Rebuttal?  If I'm wrong, I'd like to learn?
(Note- Yes, I realize that the old testament is made up of several covenants, not just one. It's just easier to make a point by making it a whole.)

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the old testament seems a lot smarter than the new testament.

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Quote: from sperm at 10:08 pm on July 10, 2009

the old testament seems a lot smarter than the new testament.
Erm... Have you READ it?

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Quote: from Stormblazer at 9:13 pm on July 10, 2009

Quote: from sperm at 10:08 pm on July 10, 2009

the old testament seems a lot smarter than the new testament.
Erm... Have you READ it?

comes off as more metaphorical to me than the new testament. want to fight with me about it or something?

they are both bullshit anyway.


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Quote: from sperm at 10:15 pm on July 10, 2009

Quote: from Stormblazer at 9:13 pm on July 10, 2009

Quote: from sperm at 10:08 pm on July 10, 2009

the old testament seems a lot smarter than the new testament.
Erm... Have you READ it?

comes off as more metaphorical to me than the new testament. want to fight with me about it or something?

they are both bullshit anyway.


The new testament parables are generally far more useful as metaphors than those of the old testament. The old testament has a lot more junk (ie Leviticus) as well.

I don't believe in God nor the bible as truth either way, no need to get upset about it.

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oh no we have differing opinions

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Quote: from Stormblazer at 9:27 pm on July 10, 2009

The old testament has a lot more junk (ie Leviticus) as well.

Are you kidding me?

Leviticus, Romans, Genesis and Corinthians are among the best and most respected verses in the Bible that refute the despicable of some of the abnormality of the hot issue topics.  Without those verses the Bible could have being no guidance to Christianity if not completely.

You must admit and give some credit where it is due at least.


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Leviticus, Romans, Genesis and Corinthians are among the best and most respected verses in the Bible that refute the despicable of some of the abnormality of the hot issue topics.

You really are an ignorant fool.

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The Bible is hypocritical in all forms of context and content, a book cant bring you happiness or tell you what to do with your life. Leaving your will in the hands of a mythically powered book is just inresponsible.

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Quote: from icantthinkofaname at 9:06 pm on July 10, 2009

Certain parts of the bible are taken out of their intended context.  Also:  Christians- The old testament can't be used to call things sin.  Sure, it's a good guideline to live by, and it give us more information on God, but it's not our covenant.  It's the old covenant for the jews, but when they broke it, it was no longer a... well... a covenant.  It didn't matter.  God made a new covenant with us, that he delivered through the new testament.  Just think... If we still lived by old testament standards, we wouldn't eat pork, we'd all be circumcised, stuff like that.  Understand what I mean?  
Okay.  Rebuttal? If I'm wrong, I'd like to learn?
(Note-  Yes, I realize that the old testament is made up of several covenants, not just one.  It's just easier to make a point by making it a whole.)


The old testiment is the law,the law that no one could realy  fully obay bacause it requiered the sacrifice of a sinless person to atone for us an sense ther are no sinless people on earth God sent Jesus to do it.
and that gave us a new covanant an answer to the old one things that were punishable by death are still bad ideas but Jesus took that death on himself
in our place.

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Quote: from Shogun villimax at 11:13 am on July 11, 2009

Quote: from icantthinkofaname at 9:06 pm on July 10, 2009

Certain parts of the bible are taken out of their intended context. Also: Christians- The old testament can't be used to call things sin. Sure, it's a good guideline to live by, and it give us more information on God, but it's not our covenant. It's the old covenant for the jews, but when they broke it, it was no longer a... well... a covenant. It didn't matter. God made a new covenant with us, that he delivered through the new testament. Just think... If we still lived by old testament standards, we wouldn't eat pork, we'd all be circumcised, stuff like that. Understand what I mean?  
 Okay. Rebuttal?  If I'm wrong, I'd like to learn?  
 (Note- Yes, I realize that the old testament is made up of several covenants, not just one. It's just easier to make a point by making it a whole.)


The old testiment is the law,the law that no one could realy fully obay bacause it requiered the sacrifice of a sinless person to atone for us an sense ther are no sinless people on earth God sent Jesus to do it.
and that gave us a new covanant an answer to the old one things that were punishable by death are still bad ideas but Jesus took that death on himself
in our place.


Wait... did you agree with me?  Or not?  I'm saying the law isn't our covenant.

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Quote: from sperm at 11:08 pm on July 10, 2009

the old testament seems a lot smarter than the new testament.
Interesting. I don't think I've ever thought of a book as being "smart".

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Quote: from TigressaLynnMae at 9:19 am on July 11, 2009

You really are an ignorant fool.

Is that suppose to be a compliment?  If yes, then I don't find such compliment to be "hot" and flattering.



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Quote: from Aristocrat at 10:52 pm on July 10, 2009

Quote: from Stormblazer at 9:27 pm on July 10, 2009

The old testament has a lot more junk (ie Leviticus) as well.

Are you kidding me?

Leviticus, Romans, Genesis and Corinthians are among the best and most respected verses in the Bible that refute the despicable of some of the abnormality of the hot issue topics. Without those verses the Bible could have being no guidance to Christianity if not completely.

You must admit and give some credit where it is due at least.


Not to books like Leviticus I won't. You are aware that Leviticus advocates stoning people on frankly frivolous grounds, yes? I'm sorry you have a fixation on abnormality somehow meaning wrongness, but have a care for the sources you defend before doing so.


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Quote: from Stormblazer at 2:36 am on July 12, 2009

Not to books like Leviticus I won't. You are aware that Leviticus advocates stoning people on frankly frivolous grounds, yes? I'm sorry you have a fixation on abnormality somehow meaning wrongness, but have a care for the sources you defend before doing so.

You mean people who commit crime back then used to be stoned and that is the Law; just as today when you commit a major crime you will be put to electric chair.  Early days you commit a major crime you will be stoned as modern day you will be electrocuted which both are a sign of punishment right?  No difference except one is with stoning while the other is an electric chair that's the only different but other than that it is still a punishment.


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