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Quote: from Aristocrat at 1:03 am on July 13, 2009
You mean people who commit crime back then used to be stoned and that is the Law; just as today when you commit a major crime you will be put to electric chair. Early days you commit a major crime you will be stoned as modern day you will be electrocuted which both are a sign of punishment right? No difference except one is with stoning while the other is an electric chair that's the only different but other than that it is still a punishment.
I said on relatively frivolous grounds. For example, cursing God's name. I understand it's an issue, but worthy of being killed for? Not a chance, not by light years. Point is, there are several things in there that no one would ever say is a major crime, not one that you would stone someone for. It's not just the stoning either. There's a lot of silly junk in there, especially all the junk about periods and semen. Sure, there's some good advice too, common sense health stuff like not eating the meat of a wild animal that's been laying there awhile. But it means you take the stuff on it's own merit, not just because it's in Leviticus. And that means that for stuff that isn't blatantly obvious, you can't use Leviticus as a valid source even on purely theological grounds, which as a matter of government policy, you're a long way from theological grounds anyways. PS. The death penalty is quite rare, and most places that do still have it use lethal injection.
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Quote: from Stormblazer at 1:52 am on July 13, 2009
I said on relatively frivolous grounds. For example, cursing God's name. I understand it's an issue, but worthy of being killed for? Not a chance, not by light years. Point is, there are several things in there that no one would ever say is a major crime, not one that you would stone someone for. It's not just the stoning either. There's a lot of silly junk in there, especially all the junk about periods and semen. Sure, there's some good advice too, common sense health stuff like not eating the meat of a wild animal that's been laying there awhile. But it means you take the stuff on it's own merit, not just because it's in Leviticus. And that means that for stuff that isn't blatantly obvious, you can't use Leviticus as a valid source even on purely theological grounds, which as a matter of government policy, you're a long way from theological grounds anyways. PS. The death penalty is quite rare, and most places that do still have it use lethal injection. 
I acknowledge that the Bible has some flaws in it, but there are also some good in it too that people can use and follow while ignoring the other flaws. I tend to see a lot of people making and using the flaws in it as an excuse for going astray just because some men corrupted some part in the Bible. People should do their best to avoid evil and abnormal things that is distasteful to the civilized and healthy society. But they arrogantly ignore such good message and go with their immoral desires (like pedophilia, murder, rape so on and forth). Don't give me wrong some desires are completely normal and natural (like wanting to get married to a woman ((now that is the natural lust to have for a woman)), then having kids, or helping the poor son on and forth) while others are not; it is nothing but a whisper of the Satan's temptation that we as human should have brushed (it is hard to fight with the Satan but we have to do our best rather than being apologetic to it) it off instead going along with it. Anyways, I might not like the whole thing that dude wrote but I like some of his stuff. I do not like or agree with the sell your daughters stuff in there but If I were a Christian I would take the good things and ignore the part where it don't make sense. Quote: from TigressaLynnMae at 10:28 am on July 13, 2009
Are you really that dense?
Absolutely not, just wanted to make sure. Post edited at 12:49 pm on July 13, 2009 by Aristocrat
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Quote: from Aristocrat at 1:45 pm on July 13, 2009
Anyways, I might not like the whole thing that dude wrote but I like some of his stuff. I do not like or agree with the sell your daughters stuff in there but If I were a Christian I would take the good things and ignore the part where it don't make sense.
That is my point - the "good" stuff isn't good just because it's in there is it? No, it's good because it's good. Ergo, whether it is in the bible or not alone isn't a good enough reason by itself to say if something is wrong or right. THAT is what I'm getting at.
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