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I have studied Demonology and the Occult for 10 years. It was not a mental illness at all.

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Quote: from SilverMoonSparkles at 12:00 am on June 16, 2009

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I have studied Demonology and the Occult for 10 years. It was not a mental illness at all.

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Studying the occult doesn't make it real.

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No, but seeing it does.

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Quote: from SilverMoonSparkles at 12:00 am on June 16, 2009

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I have studied Demonology and the Occult for 10 years. It was not a mental illness at all.

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Studying the occult doesn't make it real.

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Which, really, is a damn shame. I'd like to imagine that my ten years studying fantasy literature mean that I'm an Elven princess. It'd at least get me out of taking the GRE this afternoon, I think.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

Anyway, so what if it's real? I am open to the possibility.

(NB: These questions do not come from a place of ideological antipathy toward modern possession.  I am, for all intents and purposes, agnostic on the subject.)

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This is the philosophy of my life.

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Quote: from SilverMoonSparkles at 1:00 am on June 16, 2009

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I have studied Demonology and the Occult for 10 years. It was not a mental illness at all.

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For this claim to hold any weight with me, you would first of all have to be at least twenty-six.  Call me ageist, but study you conducted when you were ten is not impressive for me.  Additionally, "study" would have to imply something more than recreational personal inquiry.  (For example, when I say I have studied church history for three years, that refers to a combination of intensive personal study, frequent and rigorous courses on the subject, and apprenticeship under professional historians.  That form of study commands respect from me.)  

The very least you could do is demonstrate in some observable way your scholarly acumen in this field, rather than making an unjustified claim that you have it.  What about your "study" leads you to believe that this is a genuine possession?  If you posses some training which gives you a unique perspective in this community, it is your duty to utilize that training to aid us in coming to a more accurate knowledge of the truth.  

(NB: These questions do not come from a place of ideological antipathy toward modern possession.  I am, for all intents and purposes, agnostic on the subject.)

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No I would not have to be 26. I am 22 years old and was raised from 12 years and on as a Wiccan. That's all. I have extensively studied things such as posession and the occult ever since then, seeing as I also lived with people who were Christian Bible thumpers.

And, I did go to college. Therefore, I'm not just speaking out my ass if that's what you meant.

Post edited at 8:02 am on June 16, 2009 by The Immortal Lie

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Quote: from Prince o palities at 10:38 am on June 16, 2009

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Quote: from SilverMoonSparkles at 1:00 am on June 16, 2009

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I have studied Demonology and the Occult for 10 years. It was not a mental illness at all.

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For this claim to hold any weight with me, you would first of all have to be at least twenty-six. Call me ageist, but study you conducted when you were ten is not impressive for me. Additionally, "study" would have to imply something more than recreational personal inquiry. (For example, when I say I have studied church history for three years, that refers to a combination of intensive personal study, frequent and rigorous courses on the subject, and apprenticeship under professional historians. That form of study commands respect from me.)

The very least you could do is demonstrate in some observable way your scholarly acumen in this field, rather than making an unjustified claim that you have it. What about your "study" leads you to believe that this is a genuine possession? If you posses some training which gives you a unique perspective in this community, it is your duty to utilize that training to aid us in coming to a more accurate knowledge of the truth.

(NB: These questions do not come from a place of ideological antipathy toward modern possession. I am, for all intents and purposes, agnostic on the subject.)

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No I would not have to be 26. I am 22 years old and was raised from 12 years and on as a Wiccan. That's all. I have extensively studied things such as posession and the occult ever since then, seeing as I also lived with people who were Christian Bible thumpers.

And, I did go to college. Therefore, I'm not just speaking out my ass if that's what you meant.

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Why were you raised from 12?
Not earlier or later?
Seems an unusual age.

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Quote: from SilverMoonSparkles at 4:01 pm on June 16, 2009

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Quote: from Prince o palities at 10:38 am on June 16, 2009

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Quote: from SilverMoonSparkles at 1:00 am on June 16, 2009

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I have studied Demonology and the Occult for 10 years. It was not a mental illness at all.

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 For this claim to hold any weight with me, you would first of all have to be at least twenty-six.  Call me ageist, but study you conducted when you were ten is not impressive for me.  Additionally, "study" would have to imply something more than recreational personal inquiry.  (For example, when I say I have studied church history for three years, that refers to a combination of intensive personal study, frequent and rigorous courses on the subject, and apprenticeship under professional historians.  That form of study commands respect from me.)    

 The very least you could do is demonstrate in some observable way your scholarly acumen in this field, rather than making an unjustified claim that you have it.  What about your "study" leads you to believe that this is a genuine possession?  If you posses some training which gives you a unique perspective in this community, it is your duty to utilize that training to aid us in coming to a more accurate knowledge of the truth.    

 (NB: These questions do not come from a place of ideological antipathy toward modern possession.  I am, for all intents and purposes, agnostic on the subject.)

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 No I would not have to be 26. I am 22 years old and was raised from 12 years and on as a Wiccan. That's all. I have extensively studied things such as posession and the occult ever since then, seeing as I also lived with people who were Christian Bible thumpers.  

 And, I did go to college. Therefore, I'm not just speaking out my ass if that's what you meant.

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Why were you raised from 12?  
Not earlier or later?
Seems an unusual age.

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Becuase I was adopted and my biological mother was a witch and so is my aunt and brothers and sister and its just..Thats my real family. The adopted family are the christians. I had no contact with my real family until I was 12.

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Also just throwing out there that I think PoP's point was missed by about ten miles.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
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To ever ever after

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Just throwing out there that no religion, not even Wicca or any variety of pseudo-pagan New Age magickal hoo-hah, is genetic.

Also just throwing out there that I think PoP's point was missed by about ten miles.

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And you still have yet to demonstrate how your "study" is relevant.  What do you know that we who haven't studied don't know that makes you so sure?

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"It is the wrong question to ask, and therefore, as one  might expect, has
no right answer." - Hans von Campenhausen

This is the philosophy of my life.

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Quote: from SilverMoonSparkles at 10:01 am on June 16, 2009

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No I would not have to be 26. I am 22 years old and was raised from 12 years and on as a Wiccan. That's all. I have extensively studied things such as posession and the occult ever since then, seeing as I also lived with people who were Christian Bible thumpers.  

 And, I did go to college. Therefore, I'm not just speaking out my ass if that's what you meant.

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My point (clearly, I thought) was that studies you may have undertaken as a pre-pubescent child do not really hold any kind of authoritative relevance. Moreover, having attended college does not make you a qualified expert on all things. What did you study in school? (Note the relevant use of "study" in the preceding sentence.)

And you still have yet to demonstrate how your "study" is relevant. What do you know that we who haven't studied don't know that makes you so sure?

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I did get your point, no need to be sarcastic, everybody. I am not saying those things to make it sound like what a 12 year old believes is really that relevant to their future I just have seen things that made me believe. That's how everyone comes to believe in things really. That and alot of faith. I'm not here to argue, in fact this topic was about Michel not my personal beliefs.

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Just as a suggestion, if you don't want to talk about your personal beliefs, don't feature them so predominantly in your original post.  That will discourage others from commenting on them.

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"It is the wrong question to ask, and therefore, as one  might expect, has
no right answer." - Hans von Campenhausen

This is the philosophy of my life.

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I wasn't really interested in arguing either, just in trying to help you argue better (since you were already arguing).

Just as a suggestion, if you don't want to talk about your personal beliefs, don't feature them so predominantly in your original post. That will discourage others from commenting on them.

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I don't mind the commenting part it's when people state opinion as FACT that bothers me. x

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