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That kind of contradicts itself, no.
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At the same time? No.
I don't think so.
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Yes I do, I hink it is very possible to believe that God worked through evolution.
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Quote: from Cunning Stunt at 7:13 pm on Nov. 9, 2009
Not exactly, being that they would tend to stomp on each others tracks. It could be possible, but highly unlikely.
Why unlikely? Why stomp on each other's tracks?
This thread is embarrassing to read.
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Not at all compatible, sorry.
The only way to accept creation and evolution is to either compartmentalize these ideas, or not actually believe in creation or not understand evolution. If you want to believe that an intelligent being started evolution and guided it (already claims at odds with the facts) then you can, but you cannot continue to say you believe and follow the Bible or biblical creation without damaging other's views about your sanity.
Post edited at 1:23 am on Nov. 10, 2009 by vanquisher91
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Do you belive that it is possible to accept the theory of evolution and praise God for the wonders of creation?
Yes?
Not many Christians believe in Adam and Eve literally.
They do however believe God created life, the universe, and everything.
So yes. However, the story of adam and eve cannot.
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Not exactly, being that they would tend to stomp on each others tracks. It could be possible, but highly unlikely.
Why unlikely? Why stomp on each other's tracks?
This thread is embarrassing to read.
Unlikely because anybody able to read would be able to see that the two ideas are mutually exclusive, it would take a level of ignorance not often seen as sincerely to think otherwise. Stomp on each other's tracks because the methods by which creation works are fundamentally different with the way we know evolution works.
Evolution via natural selection is as solid of a fact as the Heliocentric theory of our solar system. Furthermore, to be on equal grounds with the fact of evolution, creationism would need to present itself as falsifiable. If, for example, mammals were found in the Cambrian strata, evolution would be blown to bits. Creationists on the other hand provide no means by which their "theory" can be falsified or disproved, which makes it unscientific on a fundamental level. If you are going to preach that evolution is compatible with creation, you may as well start lobbying that alchemy and chemistry are both equally valid.
This thread is as embarrassing as you make it.
Post edited at 1:36 am on Nov. 10, 2009 by vanquisher91
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Quote: from vanquisher91 at 10:35 pm on Nov. 10, 2009
Not exactly, being that they would tend to stomp on each others tracks. It could be possible, but highly unlikely.
Why unlikely? Why stomp on each other's tracks?
This thread is embarrassing to read.
Unlikely because anybody able to read would be able to see that the two ideas are mutually exclusive, it would take a level of ignorance not often seen as sincerely to think otherwise. Stomp on each other's tracks because the methods by which creation works are fundamentally different with the way we know evolution works.
Evolution via natural selection is as solid of a fact as the Heliocentric theory of our solar system. Furthermore, to be on equal grounds with the fact of evolution, creationism would need to present itself as falsifiable. If, for example, mammals were found in the Cambrian strata, evolution would be blown to bits. Creationists on the other hand provide no means by which their "theory" can be falsified or disproved, which makes it unscientific on a fundamental level. If you are going to preach that evolution is compatible with creation, you may as well start lobbying that alchemy and chemistry are both equally valid.
This thread is as embarrassing as you make it.
"Do you belive that it is possible to accept the theory of evolution and praise God for the wonders of creation?"
Where does that mention creationism, in the sense of Adam and Eve?
One could argue that a deity set off the expansion of the universe, which resulted in evolution.
Yes, evolution and the creation story obviously do not click together, but to say that one cannon accept evolution and praise God for the wonders of creation seems idiotic.
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Well, evolution has sort of taken over the roll of what many religious people once thought were the work of a god. I suppose you can believe that it was gods way of doing it, but more than 99% of all species that have ever lived have gone extinct and there was no guarantee that humans, or vertebrates for that matter, would arrive at the scene. The theology would be a bit strange.
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Quote: from vanquisher91 at 4:35 am on Nov. 10, 2009
Unlikely because anybody able to read would be able to see that the two ideas are mutually exclusive, it would take a level of ignorance not often seen as sincerely to think otherwise. Stomp on each other's tracks because the methods by which creation works are fundamentally different with the way we know evolution works.
Which would work if God = Young Earth Creationism, but since that's not the case, well...
Quote: from vanquisher91 at 4:35 am on Nov. 10, 2009
Evolution via natural selection is as solid of a fact as the Heliocentric theory of our solar system. Furthermore, to be on equal grounds with the fact of evolution, creationism would need to present itself as falsifiable. If, for example, mammals were found in the Cambrian strata, evolution would be blown to bits. Creationists on the other hand provide no means by which their "theory" can be falsified or disproved, which makes it unscientific on a fundamental level. If you are going to preach that evolution is compatible with creation, you may as well start lobbying that alchemy and chemistry are both equally valid.
Again, that would work if God = Young Earth Creationism, but again, that isn't the case.
Quote: from vanquisher91 at 4:35 am on Nov. 10, 2009
This thread is as embarrassing as you make it.
Actually, you've been the one to make it more embarrassing at this point...so kudos!
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