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Replies: 8Last Post Nov. 11 3:12am by Rikk
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Is 10mg of Valium the same as 1mg of Xanax?

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paracedomol maybe will work? i duno man

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http://www.dr-bob.org/tips/bzd.html
So, yes, you are correct for the most part. At least at basic equivalence.

Post edited at 11:27 am on Nov. 10, 2009 by Rickenbacker

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No, valium is diazepam and xanax is alprazolam, xanax is much stronger even when comparing 1mg xanax to 10mg valium.

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Please see the chart I linked to.

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according to your chart they would be the same, but i've done both on numerous occasions *hypothetically* and xanax fucks me much worse than valium, even in such different doses.

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Possibly, the rate of disintegration of the Xanax pills is greater than that of Valium, allowing the chemical to hit you faster and harder. Also, all benzos work slightly differently, with their action on GABA being related, so some people would notice a difference, like you are saying.

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Quote: from ghstmn6656 at 11:51 am on Nov. 10, 2009

according to your chart they would be the same, but i've done both on numerous occasions *hypothetically* and xanax fucks me much worse than valium, even in such different doses.

Valium and xanax even at equipotent doses will feel different. Equivalency tables are as much as anything used for calculating what dose of valium will keep you from going in to withdrawal if you're on a certain amount of xanax etc. Typically xanax hits harder/faster, while Valiumlasts a really long time in comparison to xanax, yattayattayatta.

If they were completely the same drug, why would both exist?

(That all being said, most benzodiazepine equivalency tables put 1mg of xanax at 20mg of valium, not 10. There is huge individual variation in benzodiazepine metabolism though.)

Post edited at 12:19 am on Nov. 11, 2009 by gro

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Quote: from heremister at 3:21 pm on Nov. 10, 2009

paracedomol maybe will work? i duno man
paracetamol doesn't do shit and if you take too much you may suffer liver damage... so get real drugs instead of taking everything in your parent's cabinet

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