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Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:19 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Quote: from Eklipse at 5:09 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:08 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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So a member's idea of what they can say and get away with will now be justification for ignoring guidelines?

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Guidelines being? DTRM is loosely moderated, and the guidelines in there aren't really strict at all...

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Where in the LIVEWIRE guidelines does it say that DTRM gets a pass on how strict the guidelines are enforced? That you Mods may have decided that it's too much trouble and may "inhibit" free expression does not change the fact that the guidelines are there and actually apply to the site as a whole.

 I'm still interested in knowing how you decide what to enforce, or do you enforce any of them inside DTRM?

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All major guidlines are still in play in DTRM. No porn, no topics aimed to attack, no harassment.

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Carie, a rule is a rule is a rule. There are no "major" guidelines. There are simply guidelines. They are either enforced or they are not. When they lose their meaning in one forum, eventually they become less meaningful in other "less support minded" forums as well. And then, at some point down the line, they are ignored altogether, simply out of tradition. It just becomes so easy to do because 'everyone does it'.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:19 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Where in the LIVEWIRE guidelines does it say that DTRM gets a pass on how strict the guidelines are enforced? That you Mods may have decided that it's too much trouble and may "inhibit" free expression does not change the fact that the guidelines are there and actually apply to the site as a whole.

 I'm still interested in knowing how you decide what to enforce, or do you enforce any of them inside DTRM?

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Should define itself, in my opinion. Who's to determine what's spam, and what's not. The only thing that still bothers me are things such as goodnight topics, but thats another discussion for another time. Like others/most mods will say, who are we to define a random musing?

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Who's to determine what's spam, and what's not..
who are we to define a random musing?

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Tell me then, if no one can determine what is spam, why is there a guideline that says "don't spam"? And if it can be determined, and you can't make that determination, why do you have a blue name?

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Someone once said this:

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Spam is like hardcore porn, you can't quite define it, but you know when you see it.

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There's nothing concrete that defines spam, really. Bud has the right idea by saying substance but, the moderation team defines it differently.

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Quote: from barnabas at 5:29 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:19 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Quote: from Eklipse at 5:09 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:08 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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So a member's idea of what they can say and get away with will now be justification for ignoring guidelines?

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Guidelines being? DTRM is loosely moderated, and the guidelines in there aren't really strict at all...

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Where in the LIVEWIRE guidelines does it say that DTRM gets a pass on how strict the guidelines are enforced? That you Mods may have decided that it's too much trouble and may "inhibit" free expression does not change the fact that the guidelines are there and actually apply to the site as a whole.    

  I'm still interested in knowing how you decide what to enforce, or do you enforce any of them inside DTRM?

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 All major guidlines are still in play in DTRM. No porn, no topics aimed to attack, no harassment.

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Can we expect to see a list of guidelines based on their importance? If they are prioritized, can we get away with some of the lesser ones more often than with those that carry a higher priority?  

Carie, a rule is a rule is a rule. There are no "major" guidelines. There are simply guidelines. They are either enforced or they are not. When they lose their meaning in one forum, eventually they become less meaningful in other "less support minded" forums as well. And then, at some point down the line, they are ignored altogether, simply out of tradition. It just becomes so easy to do because 'everyone does it'.

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I agree with you in part. But the way it used to be wasnt a good solution either. I think that discretion allows us a chance to build a better community. we just have to put some thought into it.

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Hardcorn porn is easy to define.  Quit repeating such blatant lies.

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Quote: from Eklipse at 5:51 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Who's to determine what's spam, and what's not..
who are we to define a random musing?

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oh i don't know, genius, maybe you're the moderators, maybe you're the ones who have been chosen to do exactly that?

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:01 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Tell me then, if no one can determine what is spam, why is there a guideline that says "don't spam"? And if it can be determined, and you can't make that determination, why do you have a blue name?

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Someone once said this:

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Spam is like hardcore porn, you can't quite define it, but you know when you see it.

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There's nothing concrete that defines spam, really. Bud has the right idea by saying substance but, the moderation team defines it differently.

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Tell me then, if no one can determine what is spam, why is there a guideline that says "don't spam"? And if it can be determined, and you can't make that determination, why do you have a blue name?

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Out of curiosity, what exactly would you determine as spam? What might be stupid to one person, might be meaningful to another. I rarely see you posting in DTRM to begin with, so that's why I'm wondering.

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Apparently they don't "define" it at all if Eklipse is speaking for the Mods. But, still, it IS a part of their job to do so and to do it in such a way that no one else misunderstands what that meaning here, on LW, is.

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Quote: from akallen at 6:13 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:01 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Tell me then, if no one can determine what is spam, why is there a guideline that says "don't spam"? And if it can be determined, and you can't make that determination, why do you have a blue name?

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 Someone once said this:  

 

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Spam is like hardcore porn, you can't quite define it, but you know when you see it.

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 There's nothing concrete that defines spam, really. Bud has the right idea by saying substance but, the moderation team defines it differently.

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Apparently they don't "define" it at all if Eklipse is speaking for the Mods. But, still, it IS a part of their job to do so and to do it in such a way that no one else misunderstands what that meaning here, on LW, is.

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Old: Writing content which aims to solely seek attention, such as the repetitive use of the same character.  
New: Posting content which aims solely to seek attention such as trend spam, intentionally duplicating topics or posts, begging for points, etc.

source: http://golivewire.com/forums/peer-ynpiyay-support-a.html
 

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Quote: from hithere at 7:01 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Quote: from Eklipse at 5:51 pm on Nov. 2, 2009

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Who's to determine what's spam, and what's not..  
 who are we to define a random musing?

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oh i don't know, genius, maybe you're the moderators, maybe you're the ones who have been chosen to do exactly that?

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I've made a topic about this in M-2-M, actually. No need to be rude about it, kthnx.

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i'm not trying to be rude. i don't need to be rude, but you don't need to be this funny, either

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made a topic about what? about whether or not mods are supposed to determine what breaks guidelines? you want credit for that?

i'm not trying to be rude. i don't need to be rude, but you don't need to be this funny, either

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