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Quote: from The Raven at 7:23 am on Nov. 3, 2009
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that doesn't mean that abortion is murder or that you have the right to bombard some bullshit views on people left and right to try and get your point across.
I never did. I simply stated that I know of a baby actually many babies that live when they were born before the deadline for abortion. Pro-abortion people always use the, they wouldn't survive outside of mom etc, but that isn't entirely true.
Of course, my views are not more bullshit than anyone else's. Except that mine aren't just based on skewed opinion.
i would love to see a 12 week old fetus support itself.
I am not talking of a 12 week old fetus. I am talking about babies that fall into the viable, but still abortable category. 
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You post in a topic, you are referring to anyone and everyone with a general statement. If you don't want o be part of the discussion, don't make comments at all. However, your statements brought you into the conversation, and now your lack of comments is taking you out. Easy enough.
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LOL, you are starting to sound like Kaijew. I am not involved in any of the quote pyramids you are referring to. I simply made a comment, and then quoted you, because although you were not referring to me, that doesn't mean that I cannot refer to you
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fuck you yes i am you stupid cunt i'm fucking sick go fucking skydiving without a parachute
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Lol that's real mature kid.
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Your acting like they can turn off being pregnant like a light switch, but just choose not too 
abortion
murder
not to everyone
To the ones that consider it murder, it isnt like a light switch
Thats when you decide not to be a dumbass and not have sex until you are in a situation that would not be shitty for them or the child
A situation that would be hard for a child to fuck up
Thats not an option for a person thats already pregnant
You act like he didn't say that there were ways to prevent it
Pregnancy is not inevitable
And abortion IS an option
if they want to keep the fetus then it is their own stupid fault and the whole situation could have been prevented in the first place
Oh abortion is an option its just murder, thats all
IYO
Killing a human is murder, simple as that
I wouldn't give a damn if it was 5
but we are talking about a fetus. It knows nothing about anything outside of the womb, and cannot support itself outside of the womb until the third trimester and third trimester abortions are illegal
I really don't give a shit if you think it is murder
but the option is there
and if someone is stupid enough to have sex before they are ready for a child and wont get an abortion they have no one but themselves to blame
Fetus = human killing human = murder killing fetus = murder
fetus= potential human that can't support itself
in my eyes its no better than a person in a vegetative state
its completely useless
It can't feel pain and it cant do anything for itself and relies on someone else for its body to function
its less than human
its a worthless shit until it can do something for itself
WHOA dude, REWIND a second. Research suggests that a fetus CAN feel pain, once it gets to a certain point, and research ALSO suggests that this point can be before the third trimester. If you really believe that it can't feel, I encourage you to watch "The Silent Scream" on youtube. Specifically part III. Its outdated, yes, but its a shocking video, and the procedures are still the same. It is also suggested that a pre-mature baby CAN survive earlier than the third trimester under the right circumstances. And although this is rare, it HAS occurred.
I've seen the video
They don't feel pain until the third trimester
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Then why does a baby born in the second trimester feel pain? Just because a baby isn't third trimester doesn't mean they don't feel pain. So the day the baby is third trimester they all of a sudden feel pain. Yea right
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Quote: from Kaijew at 4:10 pm on Nov. 3, 2009
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Your acting like they can turn off being pregnant like a light switch, but just choose not too
abortion
murder
not to everyone
To the ones that consider it murder, it isnt like a light switch
Thats when you decide not to be a dumbass and not have sex until you are in a situation that would not be shitty for them or the child
A situation that would be hard for a child to fuck up
Thats not an option for a person thats already pregnant
You act like he didn't say that there were ways to prevent it
Pregnancy is not inevitable
And abortion IS an option
if they want to keep the fetus then it is their own stupid fault and the whole situation could have been prevented in the first place
Oh abortion is an option its just murder, thats all
IYO
Killing a human is murder, simple as that
I wouldn't give a damn if it was 5
but we are talking about a fetus. It knows nothing about anything outside of the womb, and cannot support itself outside of the womb until the third trimester and third trimester abortions are illegal
I really don't give a shit if you think it is murder
but the option is there
and if someone is stupid enough to have sex before they are ready for a child and wont get an abortion they have no one but themselves to blame
Fetus = human killing human = murder killing fetus = murder
fetus= potential human that can't support itself
in my eyes its no better than a person in a vegetative state
its completely useless
It can't feel pain and it cant do anything for itself and relies on someone else for its body to function
its less than human
its a worthless shit until it can do something for itself
WHOA dude, REWIND a second. Research suggests that a fetus CAN feel pain, once it gets to a certain point, and research ALSO suggests that this point can be before the third trimester. If you really believe that it can't feel, I encourage you to watch "The Silent Scream" on youtube. Specifically part III. Its outdated, yes, but its a shocking video, and the procedures are still the same. It is also suggested that a pre-mature baby CAN survive earlier than the third trimester under the right circumstances. And although this is rare, it HAS occurred.
I've seen the video
They don't feel pain until the third trimester
How can you say that? WATCH the video again. The ENTIRE thing. Watch it squirm, you can SEE it screaming. You really think there's no way it's hurting them? Being in the third trimester isn't a pass to feeling pain.
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Your acting like they can turn off being pregnant like a light switch, but just choose not too
abortion
murder
not to everyone
To the ones that consider it murder, it isnt like a light switch
Thats when you decide not to be a dumbass and not have sex until you are in a situation that would not be shitty for them or the child
A situation that would be hard for a child to fuck up
Thats not an option for a person thats already pregnant
You act like he didn't say that there were ways to prevent it
Pregnancy is not inevitable
And abortion IS an option
if they want to keep the fetus then it is their own stupid fault and the whole situation could have been prevented in the first place
Oh abortion is an option its just murder, thats all
IYO
Killing a human is murder, simple as that
I wouldn't give a damn if it was 5
but we are talking about a fetus. It knows nothing about anything outside of the womb, and cannot support itself outside of the womb until the third trimester and third trimester abortions are illegal
I really don't give a shit if you think it is murder
but the option is there
and if someone is stupid enough to have sex before they are ready for a child and wont get an abortion they have no one but themselves to blame
Fetus = human killing human = murder killing fetus = murder
fetus= potential human that can't support itself
in my eyes its no better than a person in a vegetative state
its completely useless
It can't feel pain and it cant do anything for itself and relies on someone else for its body to function
its less than human
its a worthless shit until it can do something for itself
WHOA dude, REWIND a second. Research suggests that a fetus CAN feel pain, once it gets to a certain point, and research ALSO suggests that this point can be before the third trimester. If you really believe that it can't feel, I encourage you to watch "The Silent Scream" on youtube. Specifically part III. Its outdated, yes, but its a shocking video, and the procedures are still the same. It is also suggested that a pre-mature baby CAN survive earlier than the third trimester under the right circumstances. And although this is rare, it HAS occurred.
I've seen the video
They don't feel pain until the third trimester
How can you say that? WATCH the video again. The ENTIRE thing. Watch it squirm, you can SEE it screaming. You really think there's no way it's hurting them? Being in the third trimester isn't a pass to feeling pain.
I've seen the video. I really don't give a damn if it feels pain really. It can't support itself and its useless. It knows nothing about anything outside of the womb.
If someone cares so much about the thing feeling pain they can go in and snap the neck first. I've read that the fetus will not feel pain until the third trimester but my source could be wrong. But I don't care. Its a fetus about to be removed it won't remember anything anyway.
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Some fetuses that are aborted CAN survive outside of the womb. They are killed before they are given the chance, and if left alone about 99% of them would survive outside of the womb. You are very wrong about it not knowing about anything outside the womb however. A fetus still has natural instincts, such as those to suck, cry, etc.
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Quote: from Kaijew at 4:08 am on Nov. 4, 2009
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Your acting like they can turn off being pregnant like a light switch, but just choose not too
abortion
murder
not to everyone
To the ones that consider it murder, it isnt like a light switch
Thats when you decide not to be a dumbass and not have sex until you are in a situation that would not be shitty for them or the child
A situation that would be hard for a child to fuck up
Thats not an option for a person thats already pregnant
You act like he didn't say that there were ways to prevent it
Pregnancy is not inevitable
And abortion IS an option
if they want to keep the fetus then it is their own stupid fault and the whole situation could have been prevented in the first place
Oh abortion is an option its just murder, thats all
IYO
Killing a human is murder, simple as that
I wouldn't give a damn if it was 5
but we are talking about a fetus. It knows nothing about anything outside of the womb, and cannot support itself outside of the womb until the third trimester and third trimester abortions are illegal
I really don't give a shit if you think it is murder
but the option is there
and if someone is stupid enough to have sex before they are ready for a child and wont get an abortion they have no one but themselves to blame
Fetus = human killing human = murder killing fetus = murder
fetus= potential human that can't support itself
in my eyes its no better than a person in a vegetative state
its completely useless
It can't feel pain and it cant do anything for itself and relies on someone else for its body to function
its less than human
its a worthless shit until it can do something for itself
WHOA dude, REWIND a second. Research suggests that a fetus CAN feel pain, once it gets to a certain point, and research ALSO suggests that this point can be before the third trimester. If you really believe that it can't feel, I encourage you to watch "The Silent Scream" on youtube. Specifically part III. Its outdated, yes, but its a shocking video, and the procedures are still the same. It is also suggested that a pre-mature baby CAN survive earlier than the third trimester under the right circumstances. And although this is rare, it HAS occurred.
I've seen the video
They don't feel pain until the third trimester
How can you say that? WATCH the video again. The ENTIRE thing. Watch it squirm, you can SEE it screaming. You really think there's no way it's hurting them? Being in the third trimester isn't a pass to feeling pain.
I've seen the video. I really don't give a damn if it feels pain really. It can't support itself and its useless. It knows nothing about anything outside of the womb.
If someone cares so much about the thing feeling pain they can go in and snap the neck first. I've read that the fetus will not feel pain until the third trimester but my source could be wrong. But I don't care. Its a fetus about to be removed it won't remember anything anyway.
Your sources are most certainly wrong. And as Chiefette said, some COULD survive outside the womb. And again, you didn't read my post. Its a lot more of a rarity, but a baby CAN survive as young as 20 weeks. Its rare, yes, but it's happened. Who cares if they know nothing outside the womb. You didn't either before you were born. Does that mean it's ok to abort you? And really... come on now... SO WHAT if it won't remember anything. That doesn't mean they can't feel pain while it's happening!
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