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Replies: 11 Last Post Nov. 4 1:46pm by Wilder
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greatescape
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I think you have a case of oversimplificationitis.
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How does one go about reading them?
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coffee brown
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they're just emphasizing the under lying shades of grey between the black and white
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The Nowhere Man
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I thought moral relativism was the assertation that no one moral philosophy was right, and/or that it was silly to expect different cultures, groups, etc to hold up our own society's morals? I'm hardly ever right though, so.
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Wilder
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Each one has some very compelling arguments. I think that anyone who can't find ONE that he or she agrees with is intellectually lazy (either he/she hasn't heard of these philosophies -- which one really should have to have -- or he/she doesn't FEEL like reading them -- which one ought to .
Agreeing with a moral philosophy does not preclude one from being a moral relativist. I largely align myself with with the ethics of Rawls and, to a lesser extent, utilitarianism, but I would still consider myself to be a moral relativist.
The relativist can't reasonably argue that ANYTHING is morally right or wrong, so it's not really possible to live as a moral relativist. 
I'm quite successfully living without arguing that anything is objectively right or wrong.
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8:45 am on Nov. 4, 2009 | Joined: Dec. 2005 | Days Active: 1,080 Join to learn more about Wilder Colorado, United States | Gay Male | Posts: 8,821 | Points: 33,169
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Quote: from foxtrotsmith at 2:05 am on Nov. 4, 2009
There are so many different competing moral philosophies (Aristotelian ethics, Aquinas's natural law theory, Hume's theory of moral sentiments, Kant's Categorical Imperative, to name a few). Each one has some very compelling arguments. I think that anyone who can't find ONE that he or she agrees with is intellectually lazy (either he/she hasn't heard of these philosophies -- which one really should have to have -- or he/she doesn't FEEL like reading them -- which one ought to . The relativist can't reasonably argue that ANYTHING is morally right or wrong, so it's not really possible to live as a moral relativist. Thoughts? 
I wouldn't say Aquina's natural law ideas were very compelling at all, it was nothing more than morality based on the whim of some arbitrary God. Kant, Hume, and even Mill were all much better. Aristotle gets off for virtue ethics, otherwise he wouldn't be all that relevant. I agree that it isn't possible to live as a true moral relativist - if you want a hilarious argument go tell that to Kaijew - but there are limitations of the objective models too. @Wilder: Relative to what then?
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Quote: from foxtrotsmith at 2:05 am on Nov. 4, 2009
There are so many different competing moral philosophies (Aristotelian ethics, Aquinas's natural law theory, Hume's theory of moral sentiments, Kant's Categorical Imperative, to name a few). Each one has some very compelling arguments. I think that anyone who can't find ONE that he or she agrees with is intellectually lazy (either he/she hasn't heard of these philosophies -- which one really should have to have -- or he/she doesn't FEEL like reading them -- which one ought to . The relativist can't reasonably argue that ANYTHING is morally right or wrong, so it's not really possible to live as a moral relativist. Thoughts? 
I wouldn't say Aquina's natural law ideas were very compelling at all, it was nothing more than morality based on the whim of some arbitrary God. Kant, Hume, and even Mill were all much better. Aristotle gets off for virtue ethics, otherwise he wouldn't be all that relevant. I agree that it isn't possible to live as a true moral relativist - if you want a hilarious argument go tell that to Kaijew - but there are limitations of the objective models too. @Wilder: Relative to what then?
------- Religion: Atheistic agnostic, political independent Polyamory FAQ Relationships
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