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Tangerine or coffee sweets?
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It's a nationality though

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Tangerine, yesh?

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Then what is a race?

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both disgusting

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Quote: from Maxxie at 2:52 pm on April 26, 2009

It's a nationality though
Why yes. Yes it is.

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Quote: from Jekyll And Hyde at 5:19 pm on Nov. 6, 2009

both disgusting

Tangerine is the lesser of two evils.

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Like.. gummy bears?

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Then what is a race?
A group of genetically related humans.


Mexican =/= Race
Hispanic = Race

Wrong.
Hispanic is not a race.
Hispanic means you are from Spanish-Speaking origin.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 5:36 pm on April 23, 2009


So by me telling them that they are racist, it's the same as me trying to tell them what to believe? Not exactly. They have their right to express their opinions and so do I. If I think they are racist, prejudice or stereotypical then I will say it and why I think so. Same principal here.
You're calling them racist with negative connotations, implying that racism is bad.
I believe it is bad too - but I'm not reprimanding people for it and trying to take away their credibility just because someone is "Racist" which really means they said something a nonWhite doesn't like.

You mean just like they reprimand people for being a different race as them? Don't give me that bullshit. If your trying to say that the solution to racism is to stop saying things are racist then that's a darn lie. I wonder why that wasn't the case before the civil rights movement. If I want to have my 2 cents on the subject of someones ignorance about a certain race( Or any subject for that matter) I will have it. That's just how I am, I always spoke my mind no matter what. They don't have to change their ignorant ways, but that doesn't mean I am not gonna have my two cents if I find something wrong. Some people are like that, deal with it.

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Tangerine

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Quote: from kidd rune at 5:09 pm on April 23, 2009


You are a stupid racist...go back to stormfront, and i'm going to impregante 3000 white women to have my mud babies. later...nazi
What?
I'm not racist.
I'm not stupid.
I can't go back if I was never a commoner.
And I'm no Nazi.


I agree, or else the Blacks will cry racist  
Down with the niggers!

Agtree? I did not claim "Down with the niggers" at all, sir.


Often times, the more you try to suppress a racial stereotype or something, as the people in this study seem to be doing (and I'm sure millions do throughout the US everyday), the "louder" it becomes in your mind. You begin to get focused on it as you give it more thought like that and as a result, suppressing those thoughts actually becomes counterproductive to solving any problems regarding racism. But at the same time, those individuals won't be accused of being racist - hence the reward.
Then, Bud, for a racist man - should he hide it and lower his intelligence, or should he be openly racist and suffer the effects of being labeled "Racist" in America, arguably worse than "terrorist."


I personally think we need to stop labeling whatever thought that expresses something negative about a racial group or countering established interpretations of racism, the history of race relations, etc. as racist and instead, refute them one by one individually while simultaneously being open-minded to what those individuals expressing those opinions have to say. From there you can pass judgment, but the buzzword "racist" and all the connotations that comes with it needs to get out.
This is what David Duke among others claim: We need to be OPEN about race to try to stop racism.
And he's been shot down numerous times. His KKK past has been brought up and in one interview - in just his introduction - eleven times. They claimed he hated Jews BEFORE even asking him.
All because he wants us to be honest.

To the general US population - what you're suggesting, itself, is racist.


If you ever want a truly free thinking society where everybody is comfortable around each other regardless of race, you must do this. Intolerance of any kind, even towards actual racists, of anathema to that and produces detrimental results (such as those feeling alienated for expressing what's deemed as racist opinions which they thought were legitimate and sympathetic to being polarized to a more extreme ideology, perhaps even outright racism).
I love how people claim we need to destroy this social construct we call race off of the face of the earth.
I believe we need to destroy this social construct we call RACISM off of the earth.


 

To do this, people need to keep in mind that nobody wishes to be evil or full of hate, but rather, may wind up antagonistic in your point of view as a result of a wide variety of factors, which often includes misunderstandings. Without free and open dialogue where everyone is comfortable, such things will never be met. If you ever want to cure the problems many whites have facing accusations of racists, you need to first denounce the race baiting accusers.


Yes, often anti-racists say "What would you do if you were in the shoes of the one you hate?"
Well, you can counter that if you question if the anti-racists were in your shoes, your race, with your life-events, which are most likely the sole reason you are "Racist" to begin with. Racism tends to be more prominent in people that are exposed to other races, and the people that call them "Racist" are almost always from different lifestyles, with different history of racial contact.

I find it funny how you seem to never object to racism when you see it but would rather object to the people who call out the racism. hmmm.......

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Quote: from Jekyll And Hyde at 5:19 pm on Nov. 6, 2009

both disgusting

For your picky taste.

I eat anything. I'm happy getting anything at all.

God, appreciate food will you? People would die for a tangerine, literally.

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You mean just like they reprimand people for being a different race as them? Don't give me that bullshit. If your trying to say that the solution to racism is to stop saying things are racist then that's a darn lie. I wonder why that wasn't the case before the civil rights movement.
Why do you care what they do if it's not hurting anyone?


People deride on David Duke because of his reputation more so than what he actually says it seems.  That's how it works for most white nationalists, which in my opinion is a shame.  Not everything he and other white nationalists say is wrong, but I do have plenty to disagree with them all on.
I actually think this is somewhat accurate.
I do not know much about Duke myself and he's not really influental to me at all.
I'm not a fan of the USA or Whites in the Western Hemisphere at all.


Well, yes and no.  You can't just "destroy" racism if beliefs of superiority based on race, prejudice of race, and racial stereotypes continue to exist.  Perhaps the idea of something being racist or not would be gone, but nothing in actuality would change.

But at the same time, it would force us to evaluate the things we associate with "racism" individually and actually refute each one-by-one.  This, overall, would make us all more informed, I believe.


By destroying "Racism" I meant destroying the use of the term and the term itself.


Eh, I really dislike using the term "anti-racist" to refer to people like that.  What does that make people who oppose them?  Pro-racist?  I don't think that's necessarily true, so I avoid calling people like that "antis" like I know many all over Stormfront do.
Anti-Racism is to be against racism.
Pro-racist is to be for racism and promoting it.
Racist-tolerant is to not care and let people be racist if they please.


Of course racism is more prominent to those exposed to more races - it's kinda hard to be racist if you're never confronted with those of a different racial group.
Which is partly why I believe a White Nation has more pros than cons.


But why use that as a justification to run and hide from it?  Racial tensions will continue to exist even if you manage to do that.  I don't believe it would be very effective in the long run and implementing it would likely cause more problems than it would solve.  It would be far more effective and realistic to increase tolerance to such a scale that racial misunderstandings could be expressed without any backlash by any racial group.  In order to do this, disassociating oneself from their racial identity would probably be required in order to not take such things personally as they often are now.  At least if such were allowed to be expressed, racial tension would diminish on a grand scale.  Racial inequalities, however, would not, but I believe that inequalities like that are better left to sort itself out naturally and instead, we should focus on the underlying cultural issues which make and still continue to make such inequalities exist.
People need to come to agreement that races exist, groups of people are different, and there's nothing we can do about that as long as these races exist.

The worm is not inferior to the lion, the worm is perfectly suited for it's own environment - and the lion his. But that also makes them not compatable.

Mixed race marriages also prove to be less successful, as the recent thread shows.

I do think when people figure out others are different from them and there's nothing wrong with that - when we can view race from a proper perspective, racism itself - not just the word - will also fall out of use.

As we educate people more on the differences between races of man and species of the animal world - people will soon figure out being "Superior" in one thing makes you "Inferior" in another.
That's why I believe no race, species, or group is inferior to another - as each serves it's own purpose.

There is no reason to hate them either, especially when they aren't doing anything to you - another aspect of racism that will eventually fall out of existence when people choose to separate and be with their own kind.


And in order to do all that I mentioned, it would take far more than just any single group (whites) from doing it.  It's an effort required of the bulk of all individuals of all races in society.  And the worst thing you can do is promote integration while taking a step back and saying "oh, we should preserve our separate identities for diversity's sake" as multiculturalism does, for that promotes self-segregation but close contact with one another, and that's generally disastrous and is exactly what's occurring in the US today.


Each culture and race deserves to exist but still needs its own living space in my opinion.

Around here, previously >90% White areas are becoming more and more Latin American and they tend to give off bad vibes.
They are culturally incompatable with Whites and I can assure you racism has just grown at a rapid rate - on both sides.

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Quote: from Feel The High at 5:20 pm on Nov. 6, 2009

Like.. gummy bears?

Hmm?

No, like, tangerine and these coffee biscuit sweet thingies.

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Quote: from maNIPULative acid at 9:20 am on Nov. 6, 2009

Quote: from Jekyll And Hyde at 5:19 pm on Nov. 6, 2009

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For your picky taste.

I eat anything. I'm happy getting anything at all.

God, appreciate food will you? People would die for a tangerine, literally.


You'll eat nything? Sounds like a fat ass to me.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:51 pm on April 25, 2009

Because the convo was a Kidd-Bud convo.  
Not a Kidd-Bud-LiveWire convo.  

And if I make a post you're just going to reply to it.  
And I'd have to reply to it.  
And it goes on and on.


You don't have to. You want to *thumbsup*

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Tangerine ftw

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I linked you to the post so you can compare NS to NSDAP as you always ask me to do.

And I don't even use the friend feature.


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Quote: from maNIPULative acid at 9:20 am on Nov. 6, 2009

Quote: from Jekyll And Hyde at 5:19 pm on Nov. 6, 2009

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For your picky taste.

I eat anything. I'm happy getting anything at all.

God, appreciate food will you? People would die for a tangerine, literally.


yes i'm fussy

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I agree, or else the Blacks will cry racist
Down with the niggers!

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It's in the nature of every human, white people just capitalize on it.

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Quote: from Total Destruction at 5:21 pm on Nov. 6, 2009

Quote: from maNIPULative acid at 9:20 am on Nov. 6, 2009

Quote: from Jekyll And Hyde at 5:19 pm on Nov. 6, 2009

both disgusting
 

 For your picky taste.  

 I eat anything. I'm happy getting anything at all.  

 God, appreciate food will you? People would die for a tangerine, literally.


You'll eat nything? Sounds like a fat ass to me.

No, I'm thin.

Fuck, I'm even sexy.

I eat anything because one day, if I throw half a sandwich away because I don't "feel" like eating any more, one day I might regret doing that, because I might be starving to death.

Get the logic?

Appreciate what you got mate.

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