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for those of you who like to use the rape abortion red herring
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what % of abortions in the usa are directly related to rape?

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don't know, but even one tenth of one percent is that much too many.

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How should anyone know that?


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How is it a red herring?

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Quote: from Bacon at 4:25 am on Nov. 6, 2009
How is it a red herring?

Attempting to hide behind rape abortion as a means of justifying abortion on demand is nothing but a red herring because the vast majority of those who want to make it illegal to just murder your child would be willing to make exceptions for rape and medical emergencies.

Especially when the argument is always, oh if you ban abortion what will the poor rape victims do.  They say this as if rape abortions are 99.99% of all abortions, and it is nothing but a red herring.

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i would bet it is higher than 0.01% of abortions

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Its not very high if I remember right, especially since they have the day after pill and such now.

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I think abortion should be legal. If abortion was illegal people could just resort to trying to abort the baby themselves which may actually hurt the baby and could also put their own life at risk.

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Quote: from awesome10 at 5:11 am on Nov. 6, 2009
I think abortion should be legal. If abortion was illegal people could just resort to trying to abort the baby themselves which may actually hurt the baby and could also put their own life at risk.

Murderers being killed during the comission of a crime is supposed to make me feel bad?

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Quote: from whoisabs at 12:19 am on Nov. 7, 2009
Quote: from awesome10 at 5:11 am on Nov. 6, 2009
I think abortion should be legal. If abortion was illegal people could just resort to trying to abort the baby themselves which may actually hurt the baby and could also put their own life at risk.

Murderers being killed during the comission of a crime is supposed to make me feel bad?


I don't see why your feelings for a fetus are so strong. The fetus doesn't breath, it cannot see, it cannot think, it cannot feel. It is not a human.

It is like when you eat scrambled eggs, You are not eating scrambled baby chickens, Your eating eggs.

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It is not a human.

You are not eating scrambled baby chickens

You really have no clue about science.

Also, when you eat eggs, those eggs aren't generally fertilized, thus they are only eggs and not new organisms.

Go back to year 7 science.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 12:38 am on Nov. 7, 2009
It is not a human.  

You are not eating scrambled baby chickens

You really have no clue about science.

Also, when you eat eggs, those eggs aren't generally fertilized, thus they are only eggs and not new organisms.

Go back to year 7 science.

Legally it is not a human until it is out of the womb.
GTFO

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Quote: from awesome10 at 8:45 am on Nov. 6, 2009
Quote: from whoisabs at 12:38 am on Nov. 7, 2009
It is not a human.

 You are not eating scrambled baby chickens

 

 You really have no clue about science.  

 Also, when you eat eggs, those eggs aren't generally fertilized, thus they are only eggs and not new organisms.  

 Go back to year 7 science.

Legally it is not a human until it is out of the womb.
GTFO

Yet you can go to jail for murder (depending on the state) if you do something that causes a woman to have a miscarriage.

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Quote: from Dexter Ward at 12:50 am on Nov. 7, 2009
Quote: from awesome10 at 8:45 am on Nov. 6, 2009
Quote: from whoisabs at 12:38 am on Nov. 7, 2009
It is not a human.    

  You are not eating scrambled baby chickens

  You really have no clue about science.

  Also, when you eat eggs, those eggs aren't generally fertilized, thus they are only eggs and not new organisms.

  Go back to year 7 science.

 

 Legally it is not a human until it is out of the womb.  
 GTFO

Yet you can go to jail for murder (depending on the state) if you do something that causes a woman to have a miscarriage.

Yet there are places where you will not go to jail if the baby/fetus hasn't taken a breath yet.

There are laws on abortion, I think if the fetus/baby is alive for 25 weeks you can't get an abortion because the fetus/baby can feel pain by then.

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Quote: from awesome10 at 5:45 am on Nov. 6, 2009
Legally it is not a human until it is out of the womb.
GTFO

Slavery was legal for quite a long time, I guess that fulfils your requirement for something to be moral.

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