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Do you think the USA should have public healthcare?
US public healthcare opinion poll
Replies: 58Last Post Dec. 23 9:28pm by Seidell
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Choice Votes Percent  
Yes, I am American 45 39%
No, I am American 36 31%
Yes, I am British 15 13%
No, I am British 2 1%
Yes, I am neither American nor British 8 7%
No, I am neither American nor British 3 2%
1/4 point please 4 3%
Vote Now! 113 Votes Cast
pegger21


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Quote: from Shogun villimax at 4:13 pm on Sep. 22, 2009

No!
That will kill privat insurence and any one whos old or otherwise not worth saving.

Fox News is scary.

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mikeyb


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It's healthcare, should be given to everyone.

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SpiritofSoresu


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Quote: from goblue15 at 10:31 pm on Aug. 16, 2009

Quote: from trodgor1337 at 12:04 am on Aug. 16, 2009

Quote: from G Sus at 9:18 am on Aug. 14, 2009

Whether you live or die shouldn't be dictated by how much money you have.
 

 they're obligated by law to service you if you need life saving treatment, doctors aren't gonna just deny you and let you die


Yes, but after the life is saved, the saved person will have a huge debt that most likely can never get paid off.


so youre saying death is better?

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:07 am on Aug. 27, 2009

Quote: from goblue15 at 3:51 pm on Aug. 24, 2009

Healthcare is a right, not a privelege.
Explain why it's a "right", please.

"to provide for the general welfare"...

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Quote: from SpiritofSoresu at 1:55 pm on Oct. 3, 2009

Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:07 am on Aug. 27, 2009

Quote: from goblue15 at 3:51 pm on Aug. 24, 2009

Healthcare is a right, not a privelege.
Explain why it's a "right", please.

"to provide for the general welfare"...

General Welfare Clause"
" to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; "

I don't see "to incur debt" anywhere in there.

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Quote: from goblue15 at 9:18 pm on Aug. 27, 2009

Every free citizen has the right to good healthcare because good health is a neccesity to live a long life.  To deny people healthcare because they can't afford insurance is like telling someone they're a second-class citizen.  We all have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  It's hard to live without healthcare, and it's hard to be happy when always sick and you can't see a doctor.

So you're saying that you support slavery, is that correct? If everyone has a right to a service (health care or otherwise) regardless of finances, then someone must be forced to provide that service regardless of that provider's individual financial concerns.

Take plumbing for instance. I am thankful to live in a home with excellent plumbing, and it is a convenience that most Americans (me included) don't have to give much thought about. However, most of us (especially city dwellers) would be unable to function without proper plumbing in our homes. But do we have a RIGHT to plumbing services in our homes when things go wrong? What about heating or air conditioning for people who live in very cold or hot climates? Where does it end?

People who say that anyone has a right to health care (or any other service) are actually in favor of slavery. You want to enslave the health care providers, demanding that they provide their services at whatever price you (or the government) dictate, and you want to enslave all other productive "free citizens" by demanding that they turn over the fruits of their labor to pay for bills that YOU incurred. That doesn't sound like a free society to me.

Edit: Just realized that the post to which I replied is almost two months old, but my point is still applicable to any argument that there is a "right" to health care.

Post edited at 7:32 pm on Oct. 20, 2009 by mikeg80


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Yes.

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Maybe

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Yes.  For-profit insurance companies should not exist.

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No, other people are not my problem, taxes are.

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yes

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Seidell


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If this healthcare plan passes, it's going to do more harm than good. Forcing people who cannot even afford health insurance to begin with to get it, and the PENALIZING them if they don't get it is pure plain wrong. If a family cannot even afford health insurance right now as it is, then what the hell do they think they can afford this?

     It's wrong. It's like my dad (who is a Doctor) says, as well as everyone he works with as well says, "it's going to do more harm than good" and not a lot of people where he works at likes this.

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