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Quote: from lucid dreams19 at 1:25 am on Sep. 17, 2009

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yea but we don't know everything about it. There is still alot that needs to be found out to make it a fact and not just a theory.

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It's as close as it's ever going to get to "fact".  

It's hard to prove that something didn't happen- that's where the religious people get their so called logic: "you can't prove me wrong, so I must be right".  

While creationism stands as the main belief, the evolution theory will stand as a minority, and stand as a theory.  

Evolution will be fact as soon as we can prove creationism wrong- and that will take a while.

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Quote: from redhotchilis64 at 12:30 am on Sep. 17, 2009

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Quote: from lucid dreams19 at 1:25 am on Sep. 17, 2009

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yea but we don't know everything about it. There is still alot that needs to be found out to make it a fact and not just a theory.

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 It's as close as it's ever going to get to "fact".

 It's hard to prove that something didn't happen- that's where the religious people get their so called logic: "you can't prove me wrong, so I must be right".

 While creationism stands as the main belief, the evolution theory will stand as a minority, and stand as a theory.

 
 Evolution will be fact as soon as we can prove creationism wrong- and that will take a while.

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They can still prove alot of things. they could find a missing link. they could find more DNA evidence. To prove something is a fact it has to be proven without a doubt. Probably something that won't be accomplished

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You literally have no idea how science works.

Evolution is considered both fact and theory.

It is held to be a fact that evolution occurs. The theory of evolution, and the meaning of theory is "this is what our gigantic mountain of evidence tells us", is how evolution occurs.

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"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution."

"Does the evolutionary doctrine clash with religious faith? It does not. It is a blunder to mistake the Holy Scriptures for elementary textbooks of astronomy, geology, biology, and anthropology. Only if symbols are construed to mean what they are not intended to mean can there arise imaginary, insoluble conflicts. ...the blunder leads to blasphemy: the Creator is accused of systematic deceitfulness."

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"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

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Evolution will be fact as soon as we can prove creationism wrong- and that will take a while.

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How does creationism stand in the way of the fact of evolution, or the scientific theory of evolution? How would disproving creationism (impossible), prove ANYTHING about evolution?

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- لورين

Love, all alike, no season knows nor clime,
Nor hours, days, months, which are the rags of time.

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While creationism stands as the main belief, the evolution theory will stand as a minority, and stand as a theory.

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The theory of evolution stands as a theory because that is basically what you are when you are as well-supported with evidence as this sort of thing can be. There's nowhere else to go. Theory is the upper limit of scientific certitude for this sort of thing.  

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Evolution will be fact as soon as we can prove creationism wrong- and that will take a while.

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This represents a fundamental misunderstanding of both scientific terminology and logic.

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"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
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Quote: from lucid dreams19 at 1:53 am on Sep. 17, 2009

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Quote: from redhotchilis64 at 12:30 am on Sep. 17, 2009

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Quote: from lucid dreams19 at 1:25 am on Sep. 17, 2009

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yea but we don't know everything about it. There is still alot that needs to be found out to make it a fact and not just a theory.

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  It's as close as it's ever going to get to "fact".    

  It's hard to prove that something didn't happen- that's where the religious people get their so called logic: "you can't prove me wrong, so I must be right".    

  While creationism stands as the main belief, the evolution theory will stand as a minority, and stand as a theory.    

 
  Evolution will be fact as soon as we can prove creationism wrong- and that will take a while.

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 They can still prove alot of things. they could find a missing link. they could find more DNA evidence. To prove something is a fact it has to be proven without a doubt. Probably something that won't be accomplished

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You literally have no idea how science works.

Evolution is considered both fact and theory.

It is held to be a fact that evolution occurs. The theory of evolution, and the meaning of theory is "this is what our gigantic mountain of evidence tells us", is how evolution occurs.

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If you don't know how everything works and how works it is not a fact. There re still things to prove and still things we do not know. It is not an absolute fact. I can still prove that there is a doubt in the theory of evolution.

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Oh, there are questions in the theory of how it happens, and questions are continually answered and new ones appear thanks to our growing knowledge of genetics and biology as a whole.

There aren't, however, any serious questions about whether or not evolution happens.

That's fact.

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"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

We're supposed to believe that were evolving for millions and millions of years from Apes/monkeys to Neanderthal, then another few millions years to evolve to aborigines, and then all of a sudden we evolve to cro-magnon/modern day man overnight(speaking in anthropological terms)?

Also, not only did we take a leap in speed of evolution from millions and milions to an overnight evolution into modern man, but we came into this race of bipedals with the profound knowledge it would take to build monuments such as the pyramids in alignment with the stars and perfectly lined up with true north when just the evolution before, the smartest cavemen got was painting on caves

Silly Creationists, they emphasize that there's a lack of proof supporting macroevolution, but that's simply because we didn't start researching at the dawn of man.

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No

We're supposed to believe that were evolving for millions and millions of years from Apes/monkeys to Neanderthal, then another few millions years to evolve to aborigines, and then all of a sudden we evolve to cro-magnon/modern day man overnight(speaking in anthropological terms)?

Also, not only did we take a leap in speed of evolution from millions and milions to an overnight evolution into modern man, but we came into this race of bipedals with the profound knowledge it would take to build monuments such as the pyramids in alignment with the stars and perfectly lined up with true north when just the evolution before, the smartest cavemen got was painting on caves

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1: Apes/monkers and humans have the same genetic ancestors. We did NOT evolve from apes/monkeys.

2: Homo sapiens (our species) has been here for thousands of years, if not hundreds of thousands of years.

Not exactly overnight.

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Of course I believe in the theory of evolution. Why would I not believe in a theory that is known to exist? That is like me not believing in Buddhism - I know its a religion.

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Its fairly well proven that the earth is round, but there are still people who stick their fingers in their ears and say no its not.

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Quote: from redhotchilis64 at 6:30 am on Sep. 17, 2009

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 Evolution will be fact as soon as we can prove creationism wrong- and that will take a while.

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How does creationism stand in the way of the fact of evolution, or the scientific theory of evolution? How would disproving creationism (impossible), prove ANYTHING about evolution?

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Most creationists believe that humans were created as humans by a god.

These do not agree.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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The Theory of Evolution states humans evolved from a different species. - "the various types of animals and plants have their origin in other preexisting types and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications in successive generations"

Most creationists believe that humans were created as humans by a god.

These do not agree.

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So? creationism still doesn't prove or disprove anything about evolution. If you (somehow) disproved creationism, that wouldn't change evolution.

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- لورين

Love, all alike, no season knows nor clime,
Nor hours, days, months, which are the rags of time.