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Why dont major latin american groups speak against illegal immigration
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Nice to see that you are too stupid to understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration, but can we expect anything less of a racist?

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Quote: from whoisabs at 10:33 pm on Aug. 8, 2009

Nice to see that you are too stupid to understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration, but can we expect anything less of a racist?
I understand the difference. Do you understand how difficult it is to immigrate to America legally?

Oh, and your circular logic fails miserably.

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Anything to defend criminals and attack others on the basis of their race...

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Quote: from whoisabs at 10:38 pm on Aug. 8, 2009

Anything to defend criminals and attack others on the basis of their race...
I'm not defending criminals. I'm defending the honest hard working immigrants who didn't have the ability to move here legally do to goverment constraints that allow your life to run the way it is.

And I'm not attacking you because of your race. I'm attacking you because I think you are by far the most retarded person I have ever met. You should be proud of yourself, as I find most people stupid in the first place.

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I'm the racist one? You're the one claiming that every single immigrant is a crimminal. And please explain to me how enjoying good cuisine constitutes as supporting crime, your logic makes no sense in that regard.
ILLEGAL immigrants break the law as we speak.


Tell me, since when has the law had our best interest at heart? Criminals run around all the time, regardless of immigration.
You have failed to answer my questions.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:53 pm on Aug. 8, 2009


I'm the racist one? You're the one claiming that every single immigrant is a crimminal. And please explain to me how enjoying good cuisine constitutes as supporting crime, your logic makes no sense in that regard.
ILLEGAL immigrants break the law as we speak.


Tell me, since when has the law had our best interest at heart? Criminals run around all the time, regardless of immigration.
You have failed to answer my questions.

The law is subject to critique and analysis, it is not concrete and absolute and rarely has the best intentions for us as individuals. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fucking idiot.

And the only question you asked, "What's wrong with Mexico," isn't in the least bit relevant to the argument being made here. Now if you would please refain yourself from any more fail attempts at making a reasonable argument it would be much appreciated.

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Can you tell me what is wrong with our immigration policies in your opinion?

Also, my other question - why don't you go to Mexico and live there?

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The problem is that we have immigration policies and not simply an open border.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 11:23 pm on Aug. 8, 2009

Can you tell me what is wrong with our immigration policies in your opinion?

Also, my other question - why don't you go to Mexico and live there?


Go look up the facts on the policies we currently have in place and make opinions for yourself. The ammount of money and time needed for an immigrant to become a citizen of the United States is downright rediculous and out of reach for most applicants. Also Mexico sucks, hence why we have so many immigrants wanting something better.

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Sounds more like maybe Mexicans should be pushing for reform in Mexico instead of some feeling of entitlement towards the USA?

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Go look up the facts on the policies we currently have in place and make opinions for yourself.
I have...


The ammount of money and time needed for an immigrant to become a citizen of the United States is downright rediculous and out of reach for most applicants.
Perhaps, but so what? I'd say it's too easy to become a citizen, or at least a legal immigrant.
Mexico has made it so you can be a dual citizen - you can live in the USA and still be loyal to Mexico. Yay?


Also Mexico sucks, hence why we have so many immigrants wanting something better.
So instead of them fixing their own country, they flood into ours?
Why does their country suck? Is it perhaps the Mexican's fault? If so, won't they do the same to the USA?

Also, why the fuck don't we just take every Mexican from Mexico and stick them in the USA because we should all care about every single Mexican, when there are plenty of cities in the USA that suck, and plenty of Americans with no money, job, or hopes.

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You really need to learn that this is not a black and white situation in terms of the options available. No I don't want every single fucking Mexican in the United States. If they are happy and able to live in Mexico congratulations for them.

Considering that most Mexicans (at least northern Mexicans) have difficulty comming by food and good drinking water due to the lack of accomidation by the goverment, yes I would say the country sucks and is riddled with poverty. And you think the people of Mexico have the power to change their contry? All of the power lies in their goverment, they can't do a thing for a change for their betterment in their home country.

And while yes there are some honest, hardworking Americans that have been pyt out of a job because of them, many more were simply out-performed because they didn't have the drive to work harder and expected their monthly wages handed to them on a silver platter.

Again, I am not saying we should make it a fiasco and hand out jobs to Mexicans left and right (as your thick headed brain will probably interpret or attempt to warp) but rather they should be given the oppertunity to come to America for a chance at a better life.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 8:33 pm on Aug. 8, 2009

Nice to see that you are too stupid to understand the difference between legal and illegal immigration, but can we expect anything less of a racist?


Abs, I think you forget that illegal immigration supporters love to blur the distinction between legal and illegal immigration and claim you oppose all immigration, and thus are a racist white supremacist, if you oppose illegal immigration. This is the reason why so many Latin American groups won't speak out against illegal immigration - many of them somehow see measures against illegal immigration as an attack against them, despite whether they are here legally or not, or if not a direct attack against them, then fueling anti-Latino sentiment in some way.

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Quote: from y4r5xeym5 at 4:57 am on Aug. 9, 2009

and expected their monthly wages handed to them on a silver platter.

Glad to see you support abhorrent labor conditions and pitiful pay that is far below the US national minimum wage.  And this isn't even to mention all the tax evasion resulting from these workers being paid under the table, thereby avoiding paying income tax.


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Quote: from Bud2400 at 8:48 am on Aug. 9, 2009

Quote: from y4r5xeym5 at 4:57 am on Aug. 9, 2009

and expected their monthly wages handed to them on a silver platter.
 

Glad to see you support abhorrent labor conditions and pitiful pay that is far below the US national minimum wage.  And this isn't even to mention all the tax evasion resulting from these workers being paid under the table, thereby avoiding paying income tax.


How does that make me support minimum wage? I never said I liked low labor work conditions or pay, but that they are better than nothing and the workers should be thankful they at least have a job. The point I am making is that if you don't put forth the effort you won't get anything. All three of you are trying desperately to skew my argument and put words in my mouth that I never said.

Blurring the lines between illegal and legal immigration? The facts are at your disposal, go look them up. What have I done to scew anything?

And how the hell does "supporting" (honestly I am completely indifferent to the cause) illegal immigration make me a white suprimacist? If anything you three wanting to keep them out because they are "fucking mexicans" are the racists here looking for a shitty excuse to essentially "rid the world of the enemy"....

Post edited at 7:01 am on Aug. 9, 2009 by y4r5xeym5

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