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Should DNA testing be allowed on recently found NativeAmerican remains
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Quote: from whoisabs at 9:14 am on Aug. 13, 2009

There has been a lot of talks about ancient Europeans coming from France and/or Iberia across the ice patches during the last major ice age to the east coast, as well as the Polynesians rafting over and the land bridge in the Bering Straits


As far as the Polynesians go, though, it would have had to occur much later.  And I'm not so sure it would have been over the Bering Straits - if they made it as far as Easter Island, they could easily make it as far as the west coast of South America, and there is indeed evidence of South American crops (particularly the sweet potato) which have been cultivated in the Polynesian triangle since the 1200s or 1300s, a few hundred years before European sailors introduced those same crops to the Old World.


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As far as the Polynesians go, though, it would have had to occur much later.  And I'm not so sure it would have been over the Bering Straits - if they made it as far as Easter Island, they could easily make it as far as the west coast of South America, and there is indeed evidence of South American crops (particularly the sweet potato) which have been cultivated in the Polynesian triangle since the 1200s or 1300s, a few hundred years before European sailors introduced those same crops to the Old World.
Aren't Hawaiians Polynesian influenced?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 1:54 pm on Aug. 13, 2009

Aren't Hawaiians Polynesian influenced?


Hawaii is the northern tip of the Polynesian triangle. The triangle is from New Zealand to Easter Island to Hawaii.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polynesian_triangle

In that triangle is what's usually referred to as "Polynesia".

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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:39 pm on Aug. 13, 2009

Yes, the one about Caucasians is called the Solutrean hypothesis and is supported by Caucasoid mtDNA in Amerindians and these apparently Caucasoid remains.
Does that mean abs COULD be 100% white?  

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Quote: from jakelong at 5:02 pm on Aug. 13, 2009

Does that mean abs COULD be 100% white?
No.

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Oh thats right caucasian =/= white.

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Jake, it still doesn't mean he could be 100% Caucasian, since any Caucasoid influence in the Americas would be a minority - mtDNA X is rare and I don't know of any Amerinds that looked like Kennewick Man.

See any Captain Stewart Amerindians?



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LOL@ Jean Luc Picard as Kennewick man
LOL@ using a model and Star Trek to "prove" that Kennewick is Caucasian LOL

Oh I get it: they boldly (or BALDY?) went where no man has gone before!  

From the same website


There are several findings of a race of giants in both South and North America. They seem to have been redheads, huge, and often have characteristics like narrow and long skulls, multiple tooth rows, twelve fingers, perhaps even horns. In the case of facial features they appear to have been europoids.

http://cordeliaforlear.blogspot.com/2009/06/indo-european-hyperboreans.html

LOL man thats too much Im just ROFL! racial scientists are just too much LOLZ. Oh man my stomach hurts!

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LOL@ Jean Luc Picard as Kennewick man
LOL@ using a model and Star Trek to "prove" that Kennewick is Caucasian LOL

Actually, Jake, the connection was found later.

The model was deemed Caucasoid by James C Chatters PhD, and reconstructed later (I don't know if it was him).

After the construction was put out online, people noticed it looked like the Star Trek guy - who is not Amerindian at all.



There are several findings of a race of giants in both South and North America. They seem to have been redheads, huge, and often have characteristics like narrow and long skulls, multiple tooth rows, twelve fingers, perhaps even horns. In the case of facial features they appear to have been europoids.
http://cordeliaforlear.blogspot.com/2009/06/indo-european-hyperboreans.html

LOL man thats too much Im just ROFL! racial scientists are just too much LOLZ. Oh man my stomach hurts!


Lol, Jake.
Firstly, you didn't quote the whole paragraph:

There are several findings of a race of giants in both South and North America. They seem to have been redheads, huge, and often have characteristics like narrow and long skulls, multiple tooth rows, twelve fingers, perhaps even horns. In the case of facial features they appear to have been europoids. These giants were in Nevada called: si-te-CAH, and they are mentioned in many Indian legends. Apparently, they have been cannibals, who were exterminated by the Indians.
This is entirely based on Amerindian legends.
Also this "Racial scientist" you're speaking of (What is the definition or "Racial scientist?") is supposedly a group and they haven't stated that they have any actual knowledge in the field of anthropology.
"According to Paiute tradition, a race of redheaded cannibals called Si-Te-Cahs once dwelled in the area around Lovelock, north of Reno, until the Paiute ancestors exterminated them with fire and smoke in Lovelock Cave."

Seeing as Lovelock is in California, and Kennewick is in Washington, and Fallon is in Navada, it's wrong to suggest a link between these red haired cannibal giants with horns and Kennewick man and Spirit Cave Mummy.

Since the Si-Te-Cahs were exterminated in a cave that neither of these men were found in, they're not the same.


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