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Holocaust + God
Replies: 26 — Last Post Sep. 5, 2008 10:33am by theAnomie
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Shaknbake


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Quote: from kayla2 at 6:00 pm on Sep. 1, 2008
Why would God allow the holocaust to happen? While children was being burned, tortured, and hanged and six million Jews were starved, worked to death, and gassed for no apparent reason and he just didn't do anything.

I'm not questioning God. In my English class, we was talking about it and I'm curious to see what you all think God allowed the holocaust for.


There're plenty of other horrible questions to ask while you're at it. Why does God condemn people to life and then condemn them to Hell for having been born in the wrong place, time or family?

Why did God allow the near extermination of the American aboriginals? Why does God continue to allow humans to fuck each other into total crippling poverty? Why does God let Israel demolish Arab family homes? Why does God let China demolish Chinese family homes?

Why is the Holocaust so special to you, and why do you think God gives a damn?

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Why aren't you questioning god, I think a mass genocide might be something that cant be excused with a "god works in mysterious ways" dont you reckon?

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Because God delegated lots of power to earthly beings and we are not all sunshine and fairies. Well actually, we are rather like the messed up creatures that were real fairies, only bigger, and we have better technology.

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god gave people free will, but maybe that wasnt a good idea
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Nerdandproud


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Free will is debatable  

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Why does God let people do anything bad?  He granted us freewill and earthly dominion.  God didn't cause the Holocaust, Hitler did.  These sort of "why does God allow..." questions work significantly better with natural disasters.

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If there is predestination, then the Holocaust was God's design and thus he is malevolent (unless it was all part of some long-term plan that we are as yet unable to comprehend). Furthermore, in that case heaven and hell are useless because reward and punishment mean nothing if what you do is fated.


But if we have free will, then the Holocaust his human doing and God had nothing to do with it (besides giving us the free will in the first place). The Muslim "taklif" doctrine is a good explanation: that humans have free will, and life is a test for all beings with that free will.

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Quote: from kayla2 at 6:00 pm on Sep. 1, 2008
Why would God allow the holocaust to happen? While children was being burned, tortured, and hanged and six million Jews were starved, worked to death, and gassed for no apparent reason and he just didn't do anything.

I'm not questioning God. In my English class, we was talking about it and I'm curious to see what you all think God allowed the holocaust for.


He DID do things!
He helped millions to be saved by helping the alies win the war!
It was some serious crap but the evl plan failed!
The jews [and others] were not wiped from the face of the earth.

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let me get this straight, you think that if someone was succesful in assasinating hitler that it would be the work of god, thereby proving his existance. but the fact that he didn't intervine is...proof of his great godly lazyness?

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Quote: from quietboy at 6:01 pm on Sep. 1, 2008
God only works 7 days an eternity. The rest is holiday.

This is one of the best things I have read in a very long time. I'm going to steal it for later usage.

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Did anyone else notice how she said she was in English class then she proceeded to say "We was?"

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Quote: from I never forget at 9:05 am on Sep. 5, 2008
Quote: from quietboy at 6:01 pm on Sep. 1, 2008
God only works 7 days an eternity. The rest is holiday.

This is one of the best things I have read in a very long time. I'm going to steal it for later usage.

Yeah I was quite impressed with myself there I... wha? You can't steal it!!

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