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It's like that easy button commercial what with the change in the space time continuum lol
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The ignorance of the media on this is astounding. First of all, you can't just turn on an collider at this scale, it has to be warmed up. It won't reach the 7 TeV operation potential until sometime next year, after being shut off for the winter. This is just a test of the machine at energies lower than even the Tevatron and Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider, which have both been operation for many year, without creating black holes or strange matter. In fact, the energy level at which these collisions will take place doesn't come close to that which occurs every day in outer space. These collisions haven't shown evidence of micro black holes, so why should the LHC be any different? Even if they were created, it has been shown that it would take months to years for the micro black hole to grow to sufficient magnitude to swallow the planet, another misconception the media portrays. The accelerator isn't trying to "recreate the big bang," all it is doing is taking hadrons, accelerating them, and smashing them together to see what makes them up. It's the same thing as throwing two rocks together to see what's inside, just on a much smaller scale. The reason the the big bang comes up is at the very start, everything was in it's most basic form, then combined to form what we see today. Oh and anti-matter is created every day around the world in laboratories, it's already proven to exist. The exact same scare went on as the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider was being constructed in Upton, New York, which has been smashing since 2000 and proved all doomsday claims false. While yes, it is a weaker collider, it just goes to show that people will make a scare out of whatever they can, and you will never get everyone to believe the same thing in science or otherwise. Post edited at 9:25 pm on Sep. 5, 2008 by stimmer
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Quote: from stimmer at 9:10 pm on Sep. 5, 2008
 The accelerator isn't trying to "recreate the big bang," all it is doing is taking hadrons, accelerating them, and smashing them together to see what makes them up. It's the same thing as throwing two rocks together to see what's inside, just on a much smaller scale. The reason the the big bang comes up is at the very start, everything was in it's most basic form, then combined to form what we see today. Oh and anti-matter is created every day around the world in laboratories, it's already proven to exist. 
Yeah, I think all they are doing is trying to prove the existence of a Higgs particle (God particle), which only lasts 1 millionth of a billionth of a billionth of a second. Also, about antimatter, not related to this much, but from what I understand is the exact opposite to matter. So if you were to go into a vacuum and had the equipment to do so, could you basically rip empty space apart into both matter and antimatter?
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The accelerator isn't trying to "recreate the big bang," all it is doing is taking hadrons, accelerating them, and smashing them together to see what makes them up. It's the same thing as throwing two rocks together to see what's inside, just on a much smaller scale. The reason the the big bang comes up is at the very start, everything was in it's most basic form, then combined to form what we see today. Oh and anti-matter is created every day around the world in laboratories, it's already proven to exist.
anti matter does exist, I know that. However, they are technically recreating a smaller controled version of the big bang. They're smashing the particles at speeds greater than ever before. And they've already started warming it up. They've tested it with low energy amounts already
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^ no they're not, they're trying to recreate the environment AFTER the big bang, to try and find this higgs boson particle. they haven't tested it either, the first beam is on wednesday. look on their website it even says, "LHC first beam">
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Quote: from Baram at 10:13 am on Sep. 6, 2008
Also, about antimatter, not related to this much, but from what I understand is the exact opposite to matter. So if you were to go into a vacuum and had the equipment to do so, could you basically rip empty space apart into both matter and antimatter?
You can't "rip" matter into antimatter and matter, normal matter isn't composed of both so it is impossible to seperate it into both. Antimatter is created by high energy reactions and the decay of unstable nuclei. For example, the most prominant way of creating positrons is the beta decay of carbon-11 and a few others. In this process, carbon-11 decays into boron-11, a positron, an electron and a neutrino. Oh and for the record, a vacuum is never perfect and there is no way to have completely empty space. If your question does infact imply that space is a perfect vacuum, there is no way to rip nothing into something. Quote: from Crazy Snake at 4:35 pm on Sep. 6, 2008
However, they are technically recreating a smaller controled version of the big bang. They're smashing the particles at speeds greater than ever before. And they've already started warming it up. They've tested it with low energy amounts already
The big bang is theorized as a point of infinite density and temprature that, for whatever reason, exploded and gave birth to all that exists. THAT was the big bang. All they are doing is accelerating particles, letting them collide and seeing what is inside. What they find never shows itself outside of the composite particles they form, just like there is no such thing as free quarks, they are always together in larger particles. Like fauna said, following the big bang analogy (which I think is a horrible way to think off it, all it does is adds a sense of fear of the experment by having them associate the LHC with an unimaginable explosion) the state of the universe split seconds after the big bang. At this time everything is in it's most basic form, having had no time to combine yet. While yes they have started warming it up, the process of warming it up takes months. They have to cool the entire ring to and temprature of 1.9K. That takes a while.
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Quote: from stimmer at 3:54 am on Sep. 7, 2008
You can't "rip" matter into antimatter and matter, normal matter isn't composed of both so it is impossible to seperate it into both. Antimatter is created by high energy reactions and the decay of unstable nuclei. For example, the most prominant way of creating positrons is the beta decay of carbon-11 and a few others. In this process, carbon-11 decays into boron-11, a positron, an electron and a neutrino. Oh and for the record, a vacuum is never perfect and there is no way to have completely empty space. If your question does infact imply that space is a perfect vacuum, there is no way to rip nothing into something.
You're completely wrong. A vacuum is free of matter, but not energy, and energy can be converted into matter/antimatter.
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This has gotten way more attention than I thought, I didn't know people cared so much. An d the media have it insanely wrong Its very improbable anythings going to happen, and it almost certainly wont. However, if I am going to die on Wednesday, sucked into a black hole is my prefer d choice, so Im good.
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Quote: from telomere13 at 5:06 pm on Sep. 7, 2008
Quote: from stimmer at 3:54 am on Sep. 7, 2008
You can't "rip" matter into antimatter and matter, normal matter isn't composed of both so it is impossible to seperate it into both. Antimatter is created by high energy reactions and the decay of unstable nuclei. For example, the most prominant way of creating positrons is the beta decay of carbon-11 and a few others. In this process, carbon-11 decays into boron-11, a positron, an electron and a neutrino. Oh and for the record, a vacuum is never perfect and there is no way to have completely empty space. If your question does infact imply that space is a perfect vacuum, there is no way to rip nothing into something.
You're completely wrong. A vacuum is free of matter, but not energy, and energy can be converted into matter/antimatter.
Yes, vacuums are free of matter, but still contains energy
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