What's going to come of Homo Sapiens

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I'm in Ancient History, and it's explaining about how the different groups of people (Homo Habilis, Australopithecus, HomoErectus, and even farther back) lived for millions of years. They adapted, each with different qualities (although all shared skin colour [everywhere]), such as Height (Homoerectus were tall, Neaderthals were short, ect), different extremes of being physical, all of that sort of stuff. They lived, and then died out.

Now, the question I don't stop asking to myself in class is, who's to say they weren't taught all of this to their part of the world, had schools that just weren't as far as we are, and everything was very technoligcally advanced in their eyes. That they were happy, found a way of survival, and lived. They had pollution that was harmful, weather issues, politics, and everything we have..

We can be the exact same, that in reality we aren't technologically advanced like they weren't, that there will be another dominant race to take our place, because so far, we're only a quarter million years into our species, while they were 2 million years. We could be wiped out like nothing by a more technologically smart or immune to certain diseases bipedal species. Then, they dig up our stuff that survives 2 million years later, and use us as artifacts and study our society.

Discuss your opinion.

Now, the next part of this. How did they die? It's one of my wonders of the world, how everyone, and more specifically neaderthals, who were very close in DNA with Homo Sapien Sapiens, and then, died out. Was it Genocide, a Homo Sapien Sapien- Immune virus, or what? They were more stronger built then us, so they should be able to survive in rougher conditions longer then we would.

And coming back to the first one, who says that Jews aren't their own specific kind of person that we haven't found yet, and they will one day wonder about how a few million people disappear, and why the earth was at such a strange state environmentally-wise.

Gogo.

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They dies out because their species was not as well equipped to survive as Homo sapiens are. End of story. What mode of death they went through is fairly irrelevant. They died out from a lack of reproductive fitness. End of story.

FP

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The fun part is, who's to prove that? The Austro and Neanders were both around for a great amount of time, enough to prove they were able to reproduce and remain successful.

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:38 pm on Sep. 3, 2008

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They dies out because their species was not as well equipped to survive as Homo sapiens are. End of story. What mode of death they went through is fairly irrelevant. They died out from a lack of reproductive fitness. End of story.  

 FP

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The fun part is, who's to prove that? The Austro and Neanders were both around for a great amount of time, enough to prove they were able to reproduce and remain successful.

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But the rest of the world was adapting too, and they simply didn't adapt fast or well enough.

FP

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Quote: from Tavis at 6:42 pm on Sep. 3, 2008

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:38 pm on Sep. 3, 2008

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They dies out because their species was not as well equipped to survive as Homo sapiens are. End of story. What mode of death they went through is fairly irrelevant. They died out from a lack of reproductive fitness. End of story.

  FP

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 The fun part is, who's to prove that? The Austro and Neanders were both around for a great amount of time, enough to prove they were able to reproduce and remain successful.

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But the rest of the world was adapting too, and they simply didn't adapt fast or well enough.

FP

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To each his own opinion, I'm glad you've submitted yours, it's no use going back in forth, nothing can be proved to this date, except for they were there.

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To each his own opinion, I'm glad you've submitted yours, it's no use going back in forth, nothing can be proved to this date, except for they were there.

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Agreed.

And I'm happy the author of that article was a lumper, and not a splitter. Splitters piss me off, because they just want fame, and their name attached to a species.

FP

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Quote: from Tavis at 6:51 pm on Sep. 3, 2008

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To each his own opinion, I'm glad you've submitted yours, it's no use going back in forth, nothing can be proved to this date, except for they were there.

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Agreed.

And I'm happy the author of that article was a lumper, and not a splitter. Splitters piss me off, because they just want fame, and their name attached to a species.

FP

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I'm completely open to every opinion, I'd never be a hardass and pick one side and that's it.

I'm happy that someone knows something about my favorite issue of the week.

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:55 pm on Sep. 3, 2008

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Quote: from Tavis at 6:51 pm on Sep. 3, 2008

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To each his own opinion, I'm glad you've submitted yours, it's no use going back in forth, nothing can be proved to this date, except for they were there.

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 Agreed.  

 And I'm happy the author of that article was a lumper, and not a splitter. Splitters piss me off, because they just want fame, and their name attached to a species.  

 FP

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I'm completely open to every opinion, I'd never be a hardass and pick one side and that's it.  

I'm happy that someone knows something about my favorite issue of the week.

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I was an anthropology major until I made a massive change of direction. So I'm very familiar with the early hominids.

FP

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Come away, O human child!
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I was an anthropology major until I made a massive change of direction. So I'm very familiar with the early hominids.

FP

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Man, this really makes me want to take Anthro. I didn't get into it, which sucks, because it really interests me! Although I still have a chance next year if I really wanted to.

Note, people, don't be timid, all opinions are welcome, just because FP and I have talked, I'd gladly hear others too!

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I was an anthropology major until I made a massive change of direction. So I'm very familiar with the early hominids.

FP

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Oh, and, here's s'more thoughts.
-They didn't live as long, and we are known to live longer, so we would live longer?
-Absorbed into us, although I exteremely doubt it.
-Changing climate during their times might've resulted in them dying off or being worse off then us.

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Obviously, this transition would be slow, but what if people started being born with ridiculously high IQ's [since I don't think we need much more physical evolution, machines take care of that] And at some point in the very far future, the population is split between those with super high IQ's and those without.

Or ANY advantage given to people by evolution.

The question is, would they thrive, or would they be feared and "dealt" with, in some way.

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Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful.It's the transition
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It's really something that could easily go either way. Who's to say that it isn't even happening right now. They could be the really smart people, with as far as we can see, the same DNA, but if we were farther advanced, there was another strand unidentified, that gave them a smarter IQ, but they are the same, because of their environment. They don't know they're different, blend in, but are another species, that might be hidden somewhere like in the depths of the grand canyon, rising, and having conflict with the Homo Sapien sapiens, and having a pure genocide, wiping us out.

The only way we might be able to find out would be have one of the new species discover the difference, and then be prepared, and exterminate the newer race. Although that would be really foolish, because they would be better for this world then we would, and would probably be worth them taking out everyone, in order to save the world from utter destruction.

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Nobody knows why neanderthals died out. The 'ginger' gene can be traced back to homo-sapiens interbreeding with neanderthals.

Secondly, neanderthals were far more physically stronger than us. They had a complex industry of stone tools, they traded, and surprisingly they had a bigger brain than us.

A theory is that we brought knew diseases with us, combined with a rapidly changing climate and enviroment, and judging by our slightly more advanced technology and how we treated the indigeouness people of america and austrailia when they were first discovered. It can be said we wiped them out for territory.

It wasa combination of factors really.

Now with regards to technology and happiness etc. As agriculture was spreading several areas such as modern denmark waited maybe 5000 years before making the move from hunter-gatherer to farmer, even though they were trading with farmers.

And with regards to Jews, youre joking right?

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Theres actually a featured article in this month's National Geographic on why Neanderthals died out, if youre interested.

Its very good.

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I've already read it

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