so you saying rich ppl never benefit anything from the community around? they never attend public school? they never took bus and public transport? it all came from their rich parents? then they were not "self-made" either. 
What I'm saying is that poor people dont have the right to a rich persons money because they helped them get there. They have already been paid for there services. It shouldn't be required that they be paid again.
Of course they benefited from their environment. They may have gone to public school. I mean they drive on the roads every day. I'm not against taxes all together or anything, they're very important. The point of this discussion though is why should the rich have to pay such a higher rate than the poor. Punishing success in a capitalist country doesn't make sense.
sure because they get tax breaks for that 
I'm sure that has something to do with it but not entirely. If I were rich I would definitely give to charities rather than the government where I could. At least at a charity you know where your money is going. God only knows what will happen to your money if the government takes it.
well men shouldn't be forced to register for the service. and poor ppl shouldn't be forced to give away their money either and we shouldn't be forced to pay for a war we dont want and fuck there's a lot of things ppl shouldn't be forced to do. but we don't live in an island. we depend on each other ad we need each other.
Yeah you're right. This has strayed pretty far from the original topic. I do believe in taxes but once again why should the rich pay higher rates than the poor.
no I would give to ppl who need it most not to serve my own little pet projects or ideology. i'd try to anyway.
Exactly, you'd try. At some point you might put your money where it would suit yourself too. There's nothing wrong with that.
sure but you make it sound like it just falls from the sky and anybody can grab it. first you got to compete real hard for it. then the money dont go real far these days because even in a state univ (that gets money from taxes btw) the tuition is really high.
It's true there is a lot of competition for scholarships and grants out there but we go back to my earlier point. Hard work will pay off. Some people are lucky, they're born into families that can pay for their college. The world isn't always fair, but you always have a chance.
Try a community college. The tuition is much lower than a university. This semester I paid $1000 dollars for tuition and books. I know that's a lot but it is doable.
if you dont have crdit an collateral and property? good luck.
You may have a harder time finding it but I'm sure you can.
yeah i know with the way things go i prolly will just endup dead in iraq before I can ever get into college.
I don't think you understand the vastness of the military. Your not necessarily just going to get shipped off to Iraq and put on the front lines. In any branch of the military you can go in under a contract specifically outlining what you want to do. You can work on a aircraft carrier, you can be a cook, there's hundreds if not thousands of jobs in the military that keep you far from the front lines and out of danger.
sure but that doesn't mean they less valuable. their work is just as important and needed as anyone who tries to participate in society. i dont say they shoul be PAID the same as a doctor. but dont tell me you can just spit on them just because they not paid a lot
You don't get what I'm saying. By no means am I saying we should just write of toilet cleaners. What I meant to imply was that if you don't work hard to better yourself society shouldn't be taking care of you. There's a lot of legitimate hard working people in this world that just can't seem to get a head in life. I can understand that. I can't understand why we give money to drug addicts, gang bangers, dropouts and just all around lazy people.
my mom worked at it 15 years. she's a team manager but some other dude who just came in got the same pay as she does.
I'm sorry to hear that. Perhaps she should look into a new line of work. That hard work is not going to be lost going to a new job. When you see someone trying hard for fifteen years and working their way up to management on a resume that will go a long ways.
with 12 hours per day workload she can barely just rest and spends the rest of time learning more english.
I'm sorry to hear that. I applaud her in making an effort to learn English though. See just that little thing right there. That makes her value go up.
I am the one who has to try to get into college if i can. I have no clue if i can ever have the money for it because who knows what tuition is like by then. most likely i'll be working at the same time as going to school. but yeah im thinking of the military too. depending on how things turn out and what grades I get too anyway...
I wish you luck. If you try hard enough something will come along.
well sure that happens. but theres also a lot of injustice out there too and sometime hard working ppl get shafted. alot of them do. its not to say we should all bury our head and sit on our ass and give up. but its to say the rich are not automatically
I agree with you it happens. The world is by no means fair.
but hey there are leeches at the top and at the bottom of the scale. 
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