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Quote: from iguana hunter1 at 10:24 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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man will punish a man for doing wrong, but never rewards him for doing good. that is a ke difference..

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The law does not intentionally punish the innocent. Can you say the same for God?

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what i'm saying is that man's laws are flawed, and thats why some, even if very little people are punished for crimes they never commited. and God will punish, but only those that have lost themselves in the things of this world that way they don't forget him.

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Quote: from The Raven at 2:27 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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Quote: from xcraigexchaox at 5:26 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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what about scientology? religion is something for people to hide in

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 You've ignored my post too.

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which one i didnt see it

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http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yyanaty-support-bn.html#53

You falsely accused me.

Fact is real. Therefor evolution seems more logical than believing in ghosts that have never been seen.

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Quote: from SpM at 2:22 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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Quote: from Dungholesareamazing at 10:20 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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OK...can you prove it was more then one person? It's called being an author....

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 Uh..the fact that it was written over thousands of years?

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Just because it was written thousand of years ago does not mean it's true. Many things were written before christianity so does that make it true? And I agree with The Raven. It causes people to have a purpose...it causes those who have the potential to kill to not if they believe they are doomed for eternity and no don't point out that people still kill and mostly that's a choice they made and most don't believe in religion when they murder and then you've got the few who were doing it for God...

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I'm tempted to slap you in the face with your own red herring, but the Mods might get mad at me.

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Quote: from SpM at 2:25 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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Quote: from iguana hunter1 at 10:24 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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man will punish a man for doing wrong, but never rewards him for doing good. that is a ke difference..

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 The law does not intentionally punish the innocent. Can you say the same for God?

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what i'm saying is that man's laws are flawed, and thats why some, even if very little people are punished for crimes they never commited. and God will punish, but only those that have lost themselves in the things of this world that way they don't forget him.

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If God is almighty, then why are you complaining about the laws of man being 'flawed'? Why should it matter to you, if God is the ultimate deciding factor? Are his punishments not greater than anything man can give?

I'm sensing some backwards running here.

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what i'm saying is that man's laws are flawed, and thats why some, even if very little people are punished for crimes they never commited. and God will punish, but only those that have lost themselves in the things of this world that way they don't forget him.

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And yes if you got 4-5 people to believe what you do then yes you could write a book like that....I mean people get others to kill themselves because they are manipulative. I mean these "men" If more then one person wrote it wrote something that to this day is still being argued on. Nothing in there seems to be more then above what one could write. It's written in many different perspectives of what was happening and the Bible was written after the uproot of christianity meaning if it was true wouldn't it have been written way before then?

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it was written for any person that wanted to know the truth of the world, how it came to be, and why they are here.
it's written about the beginning and about how the end will begin, there's no way around things like that..

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Believe what you want but do not call someone elses believe stupid or wrong. That just shows that your ignorant.

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The Raven he was defending my grammar.

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Really? Because according to his posts, he was insulting me.

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Quote: from xcraigexchaox at 5:31 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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Quote: from The Raven at 2:27 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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Quote: from xcraigexchaox at 5:26 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

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what about scientology? religion is something for people to hide in

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  You've ignored my post too.

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 which one i didnt see it

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http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yyanaty-support-bn.html#53

You falsely accused me.

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becuase it seemed like you were on igaunas side and completely agreeing with him

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Religion is a waste of time, we'll never prove God is real, we'll never prove he isn't, why don't we just live our lives our own way and let the other live theirs? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I MEAN IT!

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Thats the solution.

But people want to enforce their beliefs on other people.  Seems the whole problem in general.

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OP, don't put religion (Christianity) in opposition to science. It's not an either/or proposition. Personally, I love that science is finding out how the wondrous works of God came about.

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i was waiting for some1 to make this comment.
Science, or Philosophy is man's love of knowledge.
Its obvious man wants to know how all things work, including god's work, in a way they will understand.
even i can't deny that, but you just can't explain many things through science, no matter how hard you try. That's why evolution is a theory, and not a fact. b/c they're no even sure, its just accepted by many b/c it seems like the most reasonable thing.

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