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man will punish a man for doing wrong, but never rewards him for doing good. that is a ke difference..
The law does not intentionally punish the innocent. Can you say the same for God?
what i'm saying is that man's laws are flawed, and thats why some, even if very little people are punished for crimes they never commited. and God will punish, but only those that have lost themselves in the things of this world that way they don't forget him.
If God is almighty, then why are you complaining about the laws of man being 'flawed'? Why should it matter to you, if God is the ultimate deciding factor? Are his punishments not greater than anything man can give? I'm sensing some backwards running here.
man's laws are influenced by the ones of God. also he punishes similar, but in greater magnitude of the following example: if a kid starts to do something bad, like stealing, the only way he wil remember he was doing something wrong is if he is punished. true or false?
Tell your God to show himself. Never going to happen. That is all he has to do to get people to believe, unfortunately he must not be too smart yet he seeks everyone to follow his ways.
it was a true or false question..
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That's why evolution is a theory, and not a fact. b/c they're no even sure, its just accepted by many b/c it seems like the most reasonable thing.
Define "theory". 
i got this from wikipedia-- "In science a theory is a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise verified through empirical observation. For the scientist, "theory" is not in any way an antonym of "fact"." you just helped me prove myself rite.
I'm sorry, I seemed to have missed your point. How exactly does this prove you to be correct? Also, I suggest this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact
just leaves us back to the starting point.
HAHAHAHA, no, it doesn't. You're just too damn lazy and ignorant to read and understand the logic.
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man will punish a man for doing wrong, but never rewards him for doing good. that is a ke difference..
The law does not intentionally punish the innocent. Can you say the same for God?
what i'm saying is that man's laws are flawed, and thats why some, even if very little people are punished for crimes they never commited. and God will punish, but only those that have lost themselves in the things of this world that way they don't forget him.
If God is almighty, then why are you complaining about the laws of man being 'flawed'? Why should it matter to you, if God is the ultimate deciding factor? Are his punishments not greater than anything man can give? I'm sensing some backwards running here.
man's laws are influenced by the ones of God. also he punishes similar, but in greater magnitude of the following example: if a kid starts to do something bad, like stealing, the only way he wil remember he was doing something wrong is if he is punished. true or false?
Tell your God to show himself. Never going to happen. That is all he has to do to get people to believe, unfortunately he must not be too smart yet he seeks everyone to follow his ways.
we just go back to faith on that one.
Why does God need faith if he can achieve his ultimate goal just by simply revealing himself? That is like telling your friends "I can shoot lasers from my eyes, I just don't want to show you I can but by telling you I can is all that matters. "
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"All right, kids, it is now my job to teach you the theory of evolution. Now I, for one, think evolution is a bunch of *bullcrap*! But I've been told I have to teach it to you anyway. It was thought up by Charles Darwin and it goes something like this... In the beginning, we were all fish. Okay? Swimming around in the water. And then one day a couple of fish had a retard baby, and the retard baby was different, so it got to live. So Retard Fish goes on to make more retard babies, and then one day, a retard baby fish crawled out of the ocean with its... ...mutant fish hands... and it had butt sex with a squirrel or something and made this. Retard frog-sqirrel, and then *that* had a retard baby which was a... monkey-fish-frog... And then this monkey-fish-frog had butt sex with that monkey, and that monkey had a mutant retard baby that screwed another monkey... and that made you! So there you go! You're the retarded offspring of five monkeys having butt sex with a fish-squirrel! Congratulations!"
LULZ, South Park 4eva XD
Its the "Go God go" episode, right??
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Quote: from The Raven at 3:00 pm on Sep. 5, 2008
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man will punish a man for doing wrong, but never rewards him for doing good. that is a ke difference..
The law does not intentionally punish the innocent. Can you say the same for God?
what i'm saying is that man's laws are flawed, and thats why some, even if very little people are punished for crimes they never commited. and God will punish, but only those that have lost themselves in the things of this world that way they don't forget him.
If God is almighty, then why are you complaining about the laws of man being 'flawed'? Why should it matter to you, if God is the ultimate deciding factor? Are his punishments not greater than anything man can give? I'm sensing some backwards running here.
man's laws are influenced by the ones of God. also he punishes similar, but in greater magnitude of the following example: if a kid starts to do something bad, like stealing, the only way he wil remember he was doing something wrong is if he is punished. true or false?
Are you so uneducated that you can't even stay on topic long enough to answer the question you just quoted?
Honestly, what you just replied with had absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
ok i'll break it down. Evolution vs. Religion--Bible--Laws of God--Influence of those laws in the one's of man-- leading all to my example. i didn't get off topic, just posted about one of the branches of this forum.
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People will believe anything to just feel a little comfort to block out the real reality that they live a meaningless life and are just existing like any other creature exists.
so you can actually keep living, believing that your entire life, and everyone elses is just a mistake? that even if you changed the world, it would have no meaning b/c it would end at some point?
Never said it was a mistake. People fear death, people seek comfort, and religion is introduced. Religion fueled wars, created laws, and organized society. It is a tool of power.
a tool of power that was introduced by a greater being b/c he knew all of this would happen. human nature is to be superior, even in it's own.
Prove it? 
basically cuz we're lazy, the egyptians enslaved the jews to do the work themselves, more recently the two different tribes in Rwanda, also in other regions of africa, the fact that whites want to get the immigrants out b/c if they get political power, things won't go like they want. (Obama '08) lets not get off topic plz.
"Love thy neighbor" is an all around solution to that, we all just chose to not do it, therefore complicate everything.
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Quote: from Forever Angel at 3:03 pm on Sep. 5, 2008
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OP, don't put religion (Christianity) in opposition to science. It's not an either/or proposition. Personally, I love that science is finding out how the wondrous works of God came about.
i was waiting for some1 to make this comment.
Science, or Philosophy is man's love of knowledge.
Its obvious man wants to know how all things work, including god's work, in a way they will understand.
even i can't deny that, but you just can't explain many things through science, no matter how hard you try. That's why evolution is a theory, and not a fact. b/c they're no even sure, its just accepted by many b/c it seems like the most reasonable thing.
I'm sorry, science is reasonably sure that evolution is the way man came to be. And that the "Big Bang" is how the earth, the sun and stars were formed. But science does not exclude God from the equation any more than it includes Him. That stems from a lack of evidence for either proposition. And that's what science looks at. That does not, however make either science or religion wrong. Just because science has not explained 'everything' does not make what it has explained 'wrong'. And it doesn't make a good argument for science vs religion. I am a firm believer that they are totally compatible.
can't argue with that one.
it could be that science is a way of man explaining
God's works..
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Iguana, why are you ignoring my posts?
the example you said got me thinking about the laws of god compared to the ones man has today...
man will punish a man for doing wrong, but never rewards him for doing good. that is a ke difference..
A key difference compared to what?
The laws man has today are more forgiving than the ones they had in the time of Jesus.
People are rewarded for doing good. I am anyway.
but is everyone rewarded by man through every good deed you do, big or small?
Nope. And that's what should happen.
I know plenty of people who are religious who do amazing things and they are not rewarded by anyone but man.
Of course, you will argue that God is making man reward those people. I'm sure. 
not directly, but through other people and things. blessings
What do you tell the people who have never had a single prayer answered all their life? People who pray every single night, non-stop, hoping for things to get better for their life or the life of a loved one. Guess they just have to wait until they die.
he answers all prayers if the the person is sencere when he does it, but sometimes he doesn't give the answer we want.
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That's why evolution is a theory, and not a fact. b/c they're no even sure, its just accepted by many b/c it seems like the most reasonable thing.
Define "theory".
i got this from wikipedia-- "In science a theory is a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise verified through empirical observation. For the scientist, "theory" is not in any way an antonym of "fact"." you just helped me prove myself rite.
I'm sorry, I seemed to have missed your point. How exactly does this prove you to be correct? Also, I suggest this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact
just leaves us back to the starting point.
HAHAHAHA, no, it doesn't. You're just too damn lazy and ignorant to read and understand the logic.
we can't necessarily test if we're all monkeys, or if the big bang even happened.
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man will punish a man for doing wrong, but never rewards him for doing good. that is a ke difference..
The law does not intentionally punish the innocent. Can you say the same for God?
what i'm saying is that man's laws are flawed, and thats why some, even if very little people are punished for crimes they never commited. and God will punish, but only those that have lost themselves in the things of this world that way they don't forget him.
If God is almighty, then why are you complaining about the laws of man being 'flawed'? Why should it matter to you, if God is the ultimate deciding factor? Are his punishments not greater than anything man can give? I'm sensing some backwards running here.
man's laws are influenced by the ones of God. also he punishes similar, but in greater magnitude of the following example: if a kid starts to do something bad, like stealing, the only way he wil remember he was doing something wrong is if he is punished. true or false?
Tell your God to show himself. Never going to happen. That is all he has to do to get people to believe, unfortunately he must not be too smart yet he seeks everyone to follow his ways.
we just go back to faith on that one.
Why does God need faith if he can achieve his ultimate goal just by simply revealing himself? That is like telling your friends "I can shoot lasers from my eyes, I just don't want to show you I can but by telling you I can is all that matters. "
faith is believing that something is true, even if you've never seen it. he wants to see if we will really do what he asks, if he shows himself to everyone, its obvious everyone will be good.
like if you knew a thief was going to break into your house, you'd obviously prepare to do something about it.
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