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Being a governor is a local thing, while the Senator is a federal thing.  A comparison for a college ball legislative position would be your state assembly.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 9:01 pm on Sep. 9, 2008

Being a governor is a local thing, while the Senator is a federal thing. A comparison for a college ball legislative position would be your state assembly.

i would argue that "local" means within your city, not the entire state. but either way, the point isn't the amount of people your decisions effect, it's the magnitude of your responsibilities. a governor, like a president, has to make decisions completely by themselves, and take full responsibility for the results of their decisions. a senator, however, only has to express his/her opinion in the for of a vote, and if it goes bad, there was at least a two thirds majority of congress that sinks with them. so to me it is less like being the president than a governor is, even if congress effects a larger population.


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Quote: from football at 5:04 am on Sep. 9, 2008

but either way, the point isn't the amount of people your decisions effect, it's the magnitude of your responsibilities.

Except that magnitude is based on the amount of people said decisions affect. That's why the magnitude of decisions made by the U.S. President is far greater than that of the President of the Swiss Confederation, even though their job titles are - by your logic - exactly the same.


a governor, like a president, has to make decisions completely by themselves, and take full responsibility for the results of their decisions.

Yes, but as we've now established the magnitude of decisions faced by a governor of a very sparsly populated state are really not that impressive when it comes down to it.


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Quote: from helloworld at 4:47 am on Sep. 10, 2008

Quote: from football at 5:04 am on Sep. 9, 2008

but either way, the point isn't the amount of people your decisions effect, it's the magnitude of your responsibilities.

Except that magnitude is based on the amount of people said decisions affect. That's why the magnitude of decisions made by the U.S. President is far greater than that of the President of the Swiss Confederation, even though their job titles are - by your logic - exactly the same.


a governor, like a president, has to make decisions completely by themselves, and take full responsibility for the results of their decisions.

Yes, but as we've now established the magnitude of decisions faced by a governor of a very sparsly populated state are really not that impressive when it comes down to it.


and yet a senators vote in congress carries a magnitude greater than a governor's? another thing you have to realize is that senators aren't even required to make a decision. just look at mccain and obama's records, they chose not to vote close to 50% of the time. that makes their jobs way less complicated, can't make up your mind on an issue? just don't decide. however both governors and presidents aren't afforded that luxury, both are in a position where they are given decisions to make, and they have to make them, whether they feel comfortable with them or not. and once again, it is that person alone who makes the decision and suffers the consequences. it is way easier to make decisions when you are just one part of a large panel than when you are forced to decide on your own. therefore, the magnitude of the decisions that ALL governors make is greater than ANY senator from any state, regardless of population.


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Senators deal with a wider range of issues than Governors and on a broader scale. I would still argue that population does come into play, I don't see how it couldn't. If Palin took part in more national or international issues, then I'd take her more seriously. Obama doesn't have the best experience but he strikes me as a natural leader while Palin doesn't. She's more of the pretty face with no content besides her ridiculous views.

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Quote: from runthespread at 7:27 am on Sep. 10, 2008

Senators deal with a wider range of issues than Governors and on a broader scale. I would still argue that population does come into play, I don't see how it couldn't. If Palin took part in more national or international issues, then I'd take her more seriously. Obama doesn't have the best experience but he strikes me as a natural leader while Palin doesn't. She's more of the pretty face with no content besides her ridiculous views.

senators don't deal with a wider range of issues, i don't know where you came up with that idea but the opposite is true. governors deal with many more issues than senators. anyway, i think obama appears to be a natural leader, and may very well be, just like palin, but neither have be tested enough to know for sure how they will respond under pressure. at least palin is only running for vp. and since you don't know anything about palin other then what she looks like and the crazy rumors that people like to circulate, i suggest reading up on her record as governor and see some of the things she did for alaska, like getting rid of their deficit, etc, then you will actually know what you are talking about, and will probably also know why palin was selected for vp. it's no surprise that you don't see her as having any content when you don't know anything about her.


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No amount of mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance can make Sarah Palin any less of a joke pick.

Just for laughs here's a picture of Wasilia's City Hall.


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Quote: from Savior at 9:10 am on Sep. 10, 2008

No amount of mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance can make Sarah Palin any less of a joke pick.

Just for laughs here's a picture of Wasilia's City Hall.


and this coming from someone who is picking obama.


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