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Web Resources: Suicide Myths Dispelled, Suicide Information
USA Suicide Hotline: 1-800-SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433)
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( fenrir )
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Quote: from HarrySunderland at 8:01 pm on Oct. 2, 2008
 I believe so, hence why I'm certain I'm going to hell if there is one, I technically died (heart stopped ect) from an overdose.
Why are you being so fatalistic if you know that you're alive now? Plus, if you automatically assume that you're condemned, how can you knowingly reject freely given forgiveness?
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6:13 pm on Oct. 2, 2008 | Joined: Dec. 2002 | Days Active: 405
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bleedingxlove
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Suicides do in fact go to hell because God has a specific plan for each of us and when you interfere with that plan by your own doing the that is an act of sin. Thou shalt not kill, this includes killing your self. It's a sin. NO SUICIDE NO MATTER HOW GOOD THEY WERE WILL GO TO HEAVEN.
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duesxmachina
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thanks for bringing that back up. its something i kept stored in a little vault but i brought it back because i KNOW theres others who think of it.
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Quote: from the real anti christ at 7:29 pm on Oct. 2, 2008
VAL!!! Firstly the link to his member profile isn't working. Secondly I kill meh self is Gunbound all the time so I'm damned right???
Here is the question I would ask: Should we hold reverent a god who would condemn us for something like that?
Thanks for the heads up. Mistake on my end. As for your final thought, I believe God is compassionate, understanding, fair and just. The peanut gallery argues hearsay blatantly from extra-Biblical sources whether by their own admission or ignorance, doesn't matter. If suicide is condemnable, the it should be explicitly condemned via scriptural texts, not solely from Theologians hundreds of years following Jesus' death. To quote Kingdom of Heaven, "If God does not understand this, then he is not God; and we should not fear Him." That thought is applicable here.
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9:12 pm on Oct. 2, 2008 | Joined: Dec. 2002 | Days Active: 405
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silverbullets
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suicides go to heaven so long as they believe jesus died for theyr sins. thats why i think its okay.
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Quote: from silverbullets at 9:40 pm on Oct. 2, 2008
suicides go to heaven so long as they believe jesus died for theyr sins. thats why i think its okay.
thats the truth, no matter your religion. no long explanation needed.
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Quote: from fenrir at 11:12 pm on Oct. 2, 2008
Quote: from the real anti christ at 7:29 pm on Oct. 2, 2008
VAL!!! Firstly the link to his member profile isn't working. Secondly I kill meh self is Gunbound all the time so I'm damned right???
Here is the question I would ask: Should we hold reverent a god who would condemn us for something like that?
Thanks for the heads up. Mistake on my end. As for your final thought, I believe God is compassionate, understanding, fair and just. The peanut gallery argues hearsay blatantly from extra-Biblical sources whether by their own admission or ignorance, doesn't matter. If suicide is condemnable, the it should be explicitly condemned via scriptural texts, not solely from Theologians hundreds of years following Jesus' death. To quote Kingdom of Heaven, "If God does not understand this, then he is not God; and we should not fear Him." That thought is applicable here.
Oh Kingdom of Heaven was Orlando blooms best role. "What is Jerusalem worth?"
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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 7:16 am on Oct. 3, 2008
Quote: from bleedingxlove at 10:36 pm on Oct. 2, 2008
Suicides do in fact go to hell because God has a specific plan for each of us and when you interfere with that plan by your own doing the that is an act of sin. Thou shalt not kill, this includes killing your self. It's a sin. NO SUICIDE NO MATTER HOW GOOD THEY WERE WILL GO TO HEAVEN.
If you commit suicide you will go to hell. Killing is wrong, even if its yourself. God did not give humans the right to kill his creation, humans took that upon themselves. By killing yourself you are killing his creation.
And can either of you back up the statement that suicide victims are automatically condemned with a specific and explicit scripture rather than inference?
ER, I will go out on a limb and say with a resounding, "No." Out of 20+ members I've had a debate with members on LiveWire over this very issue, absolutely nobody is able to provide an explicit verse that condemns from exhaustive authority of how and why suicide is unpardonable. In fact, none of them seem to realize that they're arguing from St. Augustine's worldview and not any scripture. None. Zip. Zilch.
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benhay22
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No I don't believe that at all. Someone who is so depressed in life and cannot take it anymore who kills themselves..... shouldn't and won't be punished in an afterlife after everything they had to deal with in life
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