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Oh, but we haven't helped them up?

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We haven't dedicated a month to them?

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We haven't hidden the lies about Martin Luther King JR for them?

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We haven't pushed loads of anti-White pro-Negro bullshit for them?

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The media hasn't chosen Obama as the president for them?

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We're not hushing up Black-on-White crimes, but making a big deal about White-on-Black crimes for them?

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We aren't brainwashing Whites to make them feel evil for them?

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Oh, but we haven't helped them up?

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Negro history month?

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In 2027 his secret "reputation killing" files will be released.

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All the Whites enslaved you and treated you like animals

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Any time Obama does something wrong, it's hidden - every time McCain does something wrong, it's ALL OVER the news.

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Black-on-White crimes are WAY more numerous than White-on-Black crimes. That's common knowledge that everyone knows, isn't it?

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Some common myths they pass:
*Whites stole from Amerinds
*Whites kidnapped Negroes from Africa
*The Civil war was fought over slaves - all of the South wanted slavery intact, the north didn't.

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Then again you're the one who thinks the Holocaust is a myth.

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That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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Sure if you didn't push them down in the first place...

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Never heard of it.

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But you already know about them?

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You admitted yourself that ppl used to think they were not humans.

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Sure its a conspiracy...Ok...

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I can't respond since I have no idea what you mean by "WAY more". That is a subjective statement. When you ocme back with specifics then we can talk.

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I'll get some more later.

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Those are not myths.

Then again you're the one who thinks the Holocaust is a myth.

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And Amerinds stole A LOT more from Whites than the other way around, almost all Negro slaves were bought, and the Civil war was NOT fought over slaves - the general of the North himself owned slaves and didn't want to free them.

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I don't know why everyone thinks it's only black people who are on welfare. Many white people are on it too.

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It's not pushing down if they started at the bottom and you started at the top.

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It's in February, I doubt it's not celebrated where you live.

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I have an idea about what they contain, but I don't have a copy of them...

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Of course, but you missed this part: "Negroes were so helpless and nice"

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It's just that the media WANTS Obama.

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Oh, I see.  I'll get some more later.

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All your stat showed is crimes committed by blacks vs crimes committed by whites. NOT INTER_RACIAL crimes.

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]Not necessarily the holocaust

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And Amerinds stole A LOT more from Whites than the other way around

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the Civil war was NOT fought over slaves

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The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.

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In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.

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http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html

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I don't know why everyone thinks it's only black people who are on welfare. Many white people are on it too.

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The post explained. Look:
Blacks are 4.644 times MORE LIKELY to be on welfare than Whites.

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So you admit that blacks do NOT start from a "clean slate"? Wows thatsprogress from whatyou said to Shaknbake...

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Still never heard of Negro History month. I tried googling it too. I did hear of Negro History week.  

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Yeah so scientific and well researched too.

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Not sure anybody ever said that.

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Oh yeah the Jewish media that hates blacks especially?

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When you do that show the stats on BLACK ON WHITE and WHITE ON BLACK.

All your stat showed is crimes committed by blacks vs crimes committed by whites. NOT INTER_RACIAL crimes.

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Is that why you say "What Holocaust?" and you DID say the Holocaust was a myth.

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What did they steal?

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Slavery was the main STATED cause of secession. Secession was the main STATED cause of the Civil war.

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The thing is - Lincoln himself initially advocated state control of slavery.

And, as I said, not all of the North opposed slavery, a good example is Ulysses Grant.

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You are not answering his point. he asks why ppl would think ONLY blacks are on welfare. All you showed is blacks are MORE LIKELY. Your agrument just talks of POSSIBLITY not of FACT. And not of universal fact like ONLY.

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Why ask me how people think when I don't agree with them?

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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I thought you were talking about the racial past of Whites/Blacks, not the current era.

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Type "Negro history month" and click "I'm feeling lucky"

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It's history...

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Well, they're making Negroes seem innocent and Whites seem like evil, hateful beasts.

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They hate them so much that my PSAT had a bubble you could fill in to get a chance to win two free scholarships (the catch was you had to be a "Black American")

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http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/06-02.htm

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It matters what you think the holocaust is. The mass murdering of 6million Jews? MYTH!

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Ever heard of an Indian giver? Where do you think THAT originated?

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Actually, they hated the election victory of a northern Republican Party presidential candidate Abraham Lincoln in 1859.

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It proved that the commanding position in national affairs now belonged to the North, and that it seemed that all major decisions regarding social and economic matters would henceforth be taken by the North and imposed on the South.  

The thing is - Lincoln himself initially advocated state control of slavery.  

And, as I said, not all of the North opposed slavery, a good example is Ulysses Grant.  

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I don't know anyone who thinks that only Negroes are on welfare, but if they did, it's probably due to the fact that they are more likely to do so.

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Why ask me how people think when I don't agree with them?

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No one starts from a clean slate.

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Still doesn't exist.  

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History only tells part of the story

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Sure if thats what you want to believe. No one is stopping you.

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Must be those Jewish commies at work.

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Thats the only place where you can find that data?  

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Oh yeah right. If you can show that the 6 million number is wrong then you can call the whole event is a myth. Right.

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Some things are false, some are lies, and some are half truths.

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Stupidity and racism?

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Sure but slavery was still the STATED reason.  

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More likely =/= More numbers

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Because you said "the post explained".

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Did you do what I said?

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I don't believe it, yet many people are.

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Anti-White 1,226 1,511 1,554 2,032
Anti-Black 2,988 3,805 3,945 3,099

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A review of the 4,393 offenses motivated by racial bias showed that 67.5 percent resulted from an anti-black bias, 20.2 percent resulted from an anti-white bias, and 6.1 percent resulted from bias against Asians or Pacific Islanders.

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Among the 4,580 victims of racially bias-motivated offenses, 67.2 percent were victims of anti-black bias, 19.9 percent of anti-white bias, 6.1 percent of anti-Asian or anti-Pacific Islander bias, and 1.6 percent were victims of anti-American Indian or anti-Alaskan Native bias.

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Black-on-White crimes are WAY more numerous than White-on-Black crimes.

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all knowing, wise sages of wisdom that Hollywood so often likes to portray them as

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The average Negro is more likely to be on welfare than the average White (in the USA).
Happy?

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That fact would lead people to think that more Negroes are on welfare than Whites, but it's not true.

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Get it right. It was called Negro History WEEK. So I still never heard of Negro Hisory month.

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Seriously, what's the difference between Negro and "Black" besides political correctness?

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Many people are what? Not too many people speak of "immocence". It don't change the fact that slavery was insituted in the colonies by whites.

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Kinda kills your claim that

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Now, see this (US department of Justice):
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0202.pdf
Look at table 42.

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Oh thats right. WE ALL base ALL our knowledge on Hollywood like you of course...

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At least that is factual.

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Good now you posted facts.

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Seriously, what's the difference between Negro and "Black" besides political correctness?

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Do you alse expect "negroes" to say "yassir" to whites? Do you call grown black men "boy"? Because that was ALSO popular in the 1930s. Do you really call asians "mongols" to their face? Do you call Hispanics from California Californios? Do you call people who are 3/4 black and 1/4 white "zambos"?

It has nothing to do with "political" correctness. It has to do with using obsolete or words where they don't belong.

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It doesn't change the fact that the slaves were first captured by stronger tribes in SSA and sold to the Whites.

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White victim Black murderer: 483
Black victim White murderer: 227

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I don't base any of my knowledge on that bullshit.

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It is, and many people don't believe it because of the obvious facts on the first page of this thread.

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but that's also due to Whites being the majority of the US.  

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     Seriously, what's the difference between Negro and "Black" besides political correctness?

The difference is at least 60 years. Im sure you still want to live and speak like ppl in the 19th century but we've been in the 21st century for  a while now. Get on with the program and call things the way they are instead of the way you want them to be.

Do you alse expect "negroes" to say "yassir" to whites? Do you call grown black men "boy"? Because that was ALSO popular in the 1930s. Do you really call asians "mongols" to their face? Do you call Hispanics from California Californios? Do you call people who are 3/4 black and 1/4 white "zambos"?

It has nothing to do with "political" correctness. It has to do with using obsolete or words where they don't belong.

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"Negro" is the term given to one of the Negroid race - what you would call a "Black person"
Black is a color - Negro is a race.

I don't call a Negro a boy unless he is one. And not all Asians are mongols, something you have yet to figure out. I will call a mongol a mongol. I call Hispanics Hispanics.

And 3/4 Negroes are Quadroons. 7/8 are Octoroons. Then it goes to Quintroons and Mestees.

And yes, it does have to do with political correctness.

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It doesn't change the fact that if you want whites to get ALL the credit for building the country then you HAVE TO accept they can take ALL the blame fo the mess they did and the racist and inhumane INSTITUTIONS they made. Can't have it both ways.

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What mess are you speaking of? What racist/inhumane institutions?

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And WHY do you think this happens? Give your own explanation.

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I can't relate, nor do I care WHY they do that, I just care that they do it.

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So why do you mention it?

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Many people DO mention it. MORE ppl mention the fact that blacks are on welfer than whites. It is a common stereotype. FEW people know the ACTUAL facts of the OP.

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It has to do with the correct terminology.

"Negro" is the term given to one of the Negroid race - what you would call a "Black person"
Black is a color - Negro is a race.

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Negroid is an adjective derived from the term Negro and refers to a presumed race of people mostly from sub-Saharan Africa. [1] The concept's existence is based on a now defunct typological method of racial classification

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Today, most scientists view human variation as distributed clinally, often without any sharp discontinuities. While acknowledging the existence of human variation among groups, anthropologists have abandoned the view that clearly delineated, discrete racial entities exist, since there often is considerable overlap in characteristics among the populations.[12] Furthermore, in at least one study most of the variation in physical traits found was among individuals within the so-called racial groups.

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So the term is NOT EVEN scientifically correct.

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I will call a mongol a mongol.

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They get the vast majority of the credit - but just because they did one thing doesn't mean they did the other.

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What mess are you speaking of? What racist/inhumane institutions?

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Negroes tend to want to kill Whites more than Whites tend to kill Negroes.

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IS that why WAY MORE  whites are  victims of WHITE ON WHITE crimes than any BLACK on WHITE crimes.

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I can't relate, nor do I care WHY they do that, I just care that they do it.

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Instead of looking at OTHER possiblity such as the fact that more blacks than whites committing crimes in general and so more likely to attack ANYONE anyway in the commision of the crime (like during a robbery).

You PREFER to think that blacks hate whites more while the explanation can be totally different.

Yep you're racist. Stop lying to yourself and others.
 

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Because it's similar to what you're claiming. Amerinds were not the innocent, harmless people that Hollywood claims they were - and the Europeans weren't senseless, savage killing beasts.

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They know that the average Negro is more likely to be on welfare than the average White - I haven't met anyone that I know believes that there are more Negroes on welfare in the USA than Whites.

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Scientists no longer use it.

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Seriously, when they find a skeleton in the ground, what do you think they do - call it human and be happy with that, or try to find the race of the skeleton?

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So the term is NOT EVEN scientifically correct.

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How do you find out he is a mongol? Do you go study his genome every time you meet someone in the street?  

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How do you know if he's "Asian," he's probably living in the USA.

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If you accept that whites did ALL institutions and laws in the US then you have to accept they are responsible for ALL racist laws and institutions as well. The fact that you want credit for one and don't want to accept the other shows you're dishonest.

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Slavery IN THE US, Anti-miscegenation laws, Fugitive slave laws, Lash laws. Chinese exclusion act. Operation wetback. Indian removal Act. Are you denying these laws were made by whites? /quote]
Whites were also enslaved...
Well, they didn't Negroes to mix with Whites because after slaves were no longer needed - they wanted to deport them out of the USA. Many people wanted the Negro to be NO PART of the USA except for property.
Fugitive slave laws... Well, technically the slave was owned by his master - it's illegal for him to run away.
Lash Laws - there were more brutal laws elsewhere in the world, SSA for example. Also, the original Lash Law was viewed as "too severe" and modified before put in effect.
Chinese exclusion act - The country should be able to decide who comes in, correct? What's the point of immigration laws anyway - EVERYONE is invited!
Operation Wetback - The immigrants were illegal, they had NO RIGHT to be in the USA.
Indian removal Act - Technically, the land was owned by the USA - the Indians weren't really citizens.

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Really? is that why blacks are 3 times more victims of anti-black hate crimes than whites?

IS that why WAY MORE  whites are  victims of WHITE ON WHITE crimes than any BLACK on WHITE crimes.

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http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cvusst.htm
Complete set of tables > 2006 (most recent) > table 42

Remember the percentage of Whites and Blacks in the USA also...

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The fact that you THINK blacks hate whites more shows how racist you are

Instead of looking at OTHER possiblity such as the fact that more blacks than whites committing crimes in general and so more likely to attack ANYONE anyway in the commision of the crime (like during a robbery).

You PREFER to think that blacks hate whites more while the explanation can be totally different.

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Again, I didn't say this.

Yep you're racist. Stop lying to yourself and others.

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The occasional PC White comes across and says "STOP HATING WHITES THEY ARE JUST LIGHT SKINNED!" and they usually reply saying that they hate them for {insert reasons} or that they don't hate them, they just haven't forgiven them for slavery, ect.

I'm sure they want to kill Whites - which is WHY THEY DID IT. Remember, these are HATE RELATED crimes, not just accidental killings - they must have SOME PROOF that race played a factor.

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Again thinking everyone is INTO holloywood BS?

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And they would be wrong since there ARE MORE whites on welfare than blacks. Again you confuse "more likely" with "are more".

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I doubt they say "Black person" or, better yet, "African-American" when looking at skeletons.

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http://www.understandingrace.com/home.html

http://www.understandingrace.com/humvar/index.html

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Anthropologists use Negroid/Congoid, just matters on their preference

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Is "Black person"?

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How do you know if he's "Asian," he's probably living in the USA.

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Whites were also enslaved...

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Well, they didn't Negroes to mix with Whites because after slaves were no longer needed

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Fugitive slave laws... Well, technically the slave was owned by his master - it's illegal for him to run away.

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Lash Laws

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Chinese exclusion act - The country should be able to decide who comes in, correct?

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Operation Wetback - The immigrants were illegal

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Indian removal Act

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Remember the percentage of Whites and Blacks in the USA also...

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Black victims experienced higher rates of violence than whites or persons of other races (table 5). The rate of violent victimization for black individuals was 33 victimizations per 1,000 persons age 12 or older. In 2006 households headed by black individuals were at a greater risk of property
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From table 42
Fist number is white vitims
Second number is black victim

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Crimes of violence
                                         
White only 3,699,360 100.0 % 69.3 % 13.0 % 9.7 % 8.0 %
Black only 719,880 100.0 % 11.5 74.8 7.1 6.6

Completed violence
White only 1,057,920 100.0 % 65.2 19.2 9.8 5.8
Black only 299,970 100.0 % 9.5 80.1 6.5 * 3.9

Attempted/threatened violence

White only 2,641,450 100.0 % 70.9 10.5 9.7 8.9
Black only 419,920 100.0 % 12.9 71.0 7.4 * 8.6

Rape/Sexual assault/a
White only 194,270 100.0 % 50.6 16.7 * 15.5 * 17.2 *
Black only 17,920 * 100.0 %* 0.0 * 43.0 * 32.3 * 24.7 *

Robbery
White only 280,030 100.0 % 46.2 32.0 15.2 6.6 *
Black only 60,700 100.0 % 6.6 * 66.6 9.9 * 16.9 *

Completed/property taken
White only 160,580 100.0 % 41.9 35.9 16.8 * 5.5 *
Black only 44,520 100.0 % 0.0 70.3 * 13.5 * 16.2 *

With injury
White only 57,680 100.0 % 29.1 41.5 21.7 * 7.7 *
Black only 13,290  100.0 %  0.0  100.0 * 0.0 * 0.0 *

Without injury
White only 102,900 100.0 % 49.0 32.7 * 14.0 * 4.3 *
Black only 31,230 * 100.0 %* 0.0 * 57.6 * 19.2 * 23.2 *

Attempted to take property
White only 119,450 100.0 % 52.0 26.7 * 13.1 * 8.1 *
Black only 16,170 * 100.0 %* 24.9 * 56.5 * 0.0 * 18.6 *

With injury
White only 26,010  100.0 % 53.4 46.6 * 0.0 * 0.0 *
Black only 10,050  100.0 % 40.1  29.9 * 0.0 * 29.9 *

Without injury
White only 93,440 100.0 % 51.6 21.2 * 16.8 * 10.4 *
Black only 6,120 * 100.0 %* 0.0 * 100.0 * 0.0 * 0.0 *

Assault
White only 3,225,070 100.0 % 72.4 11.1 8.9 7.6
Black only 641,270 100.0 % 12.3 76.5 6.1 5.2 *

Aggravated
White only 708,070 100.0 % 73.5 8.8 10.7 6.9
Black only 232,210 100.0 % 13.3 * 72.0  7.7 * 7.0 *

Simple
White only 2,517,000 100.0 % 72.1 11.8 8.3 7.7
Black only 409,060 100.0 % 11.7 79.0 5.2 * 4.1 *

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Over and over the stats show 60 to 70% of violent crimes by whites are committed on whites. 60 to 70% or cviolent crimes committed by blacks are done on blacks. About 10 to 20% of those crimes CROSS the race boundary BOTH ways.

The only crime that crosses race boundary BOTH ways for more than 20% is "attempt to take property".

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP