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Welfare myth
Replies: 82Last Post Nov. 5, 2008 7:32am by beyourangel77
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About 2% of Americans are on welfare today.

According to the US Census Bureau there are ~300 million Americans.

That means 6 million Americans are on welfare.

Out of that 6 million, Afu says that 38.8% are White, 37.2% are Black, 17.8% are Hispanic, 2.8% are Asian, and 3.4% are 'Other'.

Now, according to the US Census Burea, 66% of the USA is non-hispanic White, 13.4% is Black, 14.8% is Hispanic, 4.4% is Asain, and the rest (1.4%) would have to be 'Other'.

The populations of each race are as follows:
White - 198.1 million
Black - 40.9
Hispanic - 44.3
Asian - 13.1
Other - 3.6

Therefore you can find the number of each race on welfare:
Whites on welfare - 2328000
Blacks - 2232000
Hispanics - 1068000
Asians - 168000
Others - 204000

Now, when you find out the percentage of people on welfare per race, it's as follows:
Whites - 1.175%
Blacks - 5.457%
Hispanics - 2.411%
Asians - 1.282%
Others - 5.667%

Therefore, you can conclude the following:
Whites are least likely to be on Welfare than anyone else.
Blacks are 4.644 times MORE LIKELY to be on welfare than Whites.
Hispanics are OVER TWICE AS LIKELY to be on welfare than Whites.
Here is a nice graph:


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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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Who is covered under 'Other'?

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Quote: from iinsurgent at 10:48 am on Oct. 5, 2008

Who is covered under 'Other'?
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone
American Indian and Alaska Native alone
Some other race alone
Two or more races

All of the above EXCLUDING Hispanics.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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Which is speaking of what is "likely" not of what the raw number turn out to be.

But when the media portrays blacks it seems to think that MORE blacks are on Welfar overall than white. When they speak of welfare or show a black guy on TV they NEVER show whites on welfare even in raw number there are MORE whites on welfare.

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Quote: from jakelong at 12:09 am on Oct. 7, 2008

Which is speaking of what is "likely" not of what the raw number turn out to be.  

But when the media portrays blacks it seems to think that MORE blacks are on Welfar overall than white. When they speak of welfare or show a black guy on TV they NEVER show whites on welfare even in raw number there are MORE whites on welfare.


I always assumed that the majority of welfare check receivers were White because Whites are 2/3 of the USA.

Of course that's not the raw number, but more likely. But, the purpose of the OP's post was to try to disprove a "myth" nobody really believes that I know of.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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Obviously whites should be the lowest percentage of people on welfare...    They run this place? It'd be pretty sad if white people, who have been free since first settling land, had a greater percentage of people on welfare than blacks, who were slaves for 150 years, and then had to suffer through Jim Crow laws and march for their freedom, only to be bitched and degraded further for complaining.

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Quote: from ClaytonBigsby at 11:15 am on Oct. 9, 2008

Obviously whites should be the lowest percentage of people on welfare... They run this place? It'd be pretty sad if white people, who have been free since first settling land, had a greater percentage of people on welfare than blacks, who were slaves for 150 years, and then had to suffer through Jim Crow laws and march for their freedom, only to be bitched and degraded further for complaining.
Slavery in the past is no excuse for failure to act as a functioning member of society.

But, what you say kind of holds true, Whites are less likely to be on welfare than any other race.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:16 pm on Oct. 9, 2008

Quote: from ClaytonBigsby at 11:15 am on Oct. 9, 2008

Obviously whites should be the lowest percentage of people on welfare...    They run this place? It'd be pretty sad if white people, who have been free since first settling land, had a greater percentage of people on welfare than blacks, who were slaves for 150 years, and then had to suffer through Jim Crow laws and march for their freedom, only to be bitched and degraded further for complaining.
Slavery in the past is no excuse for failure to act as a functioning member of society.

But, what you say kind of holds true, Whites are less likely to be on welfare than any other race.


So while whites like Rockefeller and Vanderbuilt were out making empires while slaves in the field, that should have no bearing on future generations? Those are only specific examples; the point being that while your average white person was free and had some value, your average black was property for quite an extended point of history...  that's not to say that everything was just peachy when slavery ended. Jim Crow laws and continuous social intolerance towards blacks continued well into the 60s, in fact, it still continues today (intolerance, not Jim Crow, obviously).

To act like slavery has had no bearing on why on average, blacks are poorer than whites is just absurd. If you refuse to acknowledge that it is the socio-cultural influences that have had greatest impact on why white families are on average 8 times worth the value of black families, then you must therefore be attributing it to a superiority on the parts of whites.

You can either admit that sociology has much to do with why America's poor are poor, or you can continue spewing white nationalist bullshit.


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They have the chance to do better now - they refuse to.

They still tend to be on welfare A LOT more than Whites, yet have the chance to go to high school - FOR FREE - and get a job.

And if you think that Whites are still pushing the Negro down, please shut the hell up.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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'They' refuse to. This only further proves my point that you generalize all African Americans as one person.

THEY refuse to?! How about Barack Obama? How about the countless other African Americans who are lawyers, doctors, teachers?

They still have the chance to go to high school? Yeah, I bet it's way easy to graduate and go to college when you're the child of a single parent househould with a mother working multiple jobs. I bet it's even harder for poor whitey to get in to college, what with his parents going to Harvard and Yale and the like.

I am not saying that whites are pushing the black man down. I think they beat him down a long time ago, and just aren't giving the hand down to help the black man back up.


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You give examples on how some Negroes tend to do well.

Slavery doesn't affect them? Oh, only the poor, desolate, welfare-check, gangster, criminal Negroes are affected by the past.

Oh, but we haven't helped them up? We haven't dedicated a month to them? We haven't hidden the lies about Martin Luther King JR for them? We haven't pushed loads of anti-White pro-Negro bullshit for them? The media hasn't chosen Obama as the president for them? We're not hushing up Black-on-White crimes, but making a big deal about White-on-Black crimes for them? We aren't brainwashing Whites to make them feel evil for them?


And no, I'm not generalizing them all as a person, I'm using the average Negro.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:26 pm on Oct. 7, 2008

But, the purpose of the OP's post was to try to disprove a "myth" nobody really believes that I know of.
No one?

http://www.davidduke.com/general/black-population-welfare-bomb-ticks_23.html

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More on Welfare myth


SAY the word "welfare" and immediately the image of the lazy Black wellare queen who breeds for profit surfaces in the minds of those who have come to believe the hideous stereotype. It is a myth that persists despite government figures and authoritative studies showing that Whites overwhelmingly reap the lion's share of the dole.

The image of the Black "welfare cheat," public aid advocates say, is based on misconceptions about poor minorities. The notion, they say, comes from society's resentment of seemingly ablebodied people getting paid for doing nothing.

For some people, there is a need to believe that there are professional welfare recipients who are deliberately trying to get not only what they need to survive, but more," says Anne D. Hill, director of programs for the National Urban League. "People say to themselves: 'I work. How come this person who appears to be healthy isn't working?' We tend to equate our condition with others without fully knowing their circumstances."

Hill and other welfare supporters argue that numbers, and not erroneous stereotypes, tell the real story about public assistance clients: Some 61 percent of welfare recipients are White, while 33 percent are Black, according to 1990 Census Bureau statistics, the latest figures available.

The federal government defines welfare as all entitlement programs funded through taxes. These programs, listed as "direct benefit payments for individuals" by the Office of Management and Budget, make up $730 billion or 43 percent of the $1.47 trillion the government will spend this fiscal year.

Social Security is the nation's largest welfare program, although many Whites prefer to call it a retirement plan. The government writes retirement and disability benefit checks to 35.4 million recipients of whom 88.7 percent are White and 9.6 percent are Black. The reason behind this shocking disparity is perhaps the most lamentable of all: The life expectancy rate for Blacks is six years shorter than that of Whites, meaning Black workers spend years paying into a retirement system only to have White retirees reap the benefits for a longer time.

Welfare critics rarely search the Social Security rolls for "welfare cheats," but train their sights on people getting Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), Medicaid and food stamps, the relief programs with the most Black clients. Yet government figures show that Whites not Blacks make up the bulk of clients on these public aid programs; a fact that dispels the notion that Blacks are scheming for a free lunch courtesy of the American taxpayer.


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n2_v48/ai_12970819



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     But, the purpose of the OP's post was to try to disprove a "myth" nobody really believes that I know of.

No one?

http://www.davidduke.com/general/black-population-welfare-bomb-ticks_23.html


Where did he say that there are more Black welfare recipients than White recipients in the USA?


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1077/is_n2_v48/ai_12970819

Got anything less than 16 years old?

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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At least I gave you evidence for my statements.

Try to support any of that sack of feces --->


Oh, but we haven't helped them up? We haven't dedicated a month to them? We haven't hidden the lies about Martin Luther King JR for them? We haven't pushed loads of anti-White pro-Negro bullshit for them? The media hasn't chosen Obama as the president for them? We're not hushing up Black-on-White crimes, but making a big deal about White-on-Black crimes for them? We aren't brainwashing Whites to make them feel evil for them?

yeah good luck

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