Out of the first 50 "Most influential Americans," only 4 were Negroes. (Jackie Robinson, MLK, DuBois, and Douglass)

To think that 4 people, or 8% of the 50 most influential Americans equally contributed is ludicrous. To think that Negroes contributed equally/more is also claiming that the average Negro contributed more to the USA than the average nonNegro, also ludicrous.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
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Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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http://www.pierretristam.com/Bobst/Archives/CN120606.htm

Out of the first 50 "Most influential Americans," only 4 were Negroes. (Jackie Robinson, MLK, DuBois, and Douglass)

 
To think that 4 people, or 8% of the 50 most influential Americans equally contributed is ludicrous. To think that Negroes contributed equally/more is also claiming that the average Negro contributed more to the USA than the average nonNegro, also ludicrous.

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Which is not to say that being on such a list is the defining factor of contribution to a nation. The people on that list would never have a chance to be there without a whole society around them making it possible, man is not an island.

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 The average white person contributed equally little, it's a rare person (by definition) whatever the race who ends up on a "50 most influential" list.

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Quote: from osmoticdespair at 5:57 pm on Oct. 20, 2008

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The average white person contributed equally little, it's a rare person (by definition) whatever the race who ends up on a "50 most influential" list.

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I agree. Basing everything on what exceptional ppl did is totally whacked.

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Totally relevant. You are using the exceptions to make your rule. Thats pretty full of shit.

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If the majority of the people that DID influence the USA were White, than it stays.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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It doesn't matter if most Whites didn't contribute.

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By your measure  ONLY the white descendents of the founding fathers have any claim to contributing to the country and have any rights to live and prosper in the country. All others are just parasites and deadweights. ONLY  the founding fathers "worked their butts off" to create the country. All others, balck and white just provided labor and therefore by YOUR measure were not important.

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If the majority of the people that DID influence the USA were White, than it stays.

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It pretty much kills your entire argument.

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By your measure  ONLY the white descendents of the founding fathers have any claim to contributing to the country and have any rights to live and prosper in the country. All others are just parasites and deadweights.

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ONLY  the founding fathers "worked their butts off" to create the country. All others, balck and white just provided labor and therefore by YOUR measure were not important.

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it's that some people have MORE IMPORTANT jobs.

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I don't understand the Ideal's of Supremacy myself.

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Quote: from OnlyTooProud at 1:07 am on Oct. 28, 2008

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I don't understand the Ideal's of Supremacy myself.

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Nationalism isn't Supremacy though.

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It is a smokescreen for supremacy.

Same beast, different name.

Stormfront is a white nationalist group as well.

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It is a smokescreen for supremacy.

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Same beast, different name.

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Stormfront is a white nationalist group as well.

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It is a smokescreen for supremacy.

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I'm sure MANY WN's are WS's - but WHITE NATIONALISM IS NOT RELATED TO WHITE SUPREMACY.

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Same beast, different name.

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Prove it.

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Stormfront is a white nationalist group as well.

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Stormfront, as I understand, is a forum for Whites proud of their heritage - many being WN's, while many are WS's and others.

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White nationalism IS white SUPREMACY.

DAVID DUKE IS A SELF-DESCRIBED WHITE NATIONALIST AND HE IS A HIGH PROFILE LEADER OF THE KKK. Stop with the lying.  I've yet to see principles of a "white nationalist" that don't explictly support white supreamist ideology. Again, white nationalism is a smokescreen for white supremacism. And I'm not the only one who thinks as such.

"White supremacists - many call themselves nationalists or "White activists," with a capital W - have had limited political success["

" Barrett is evasive about his ideology and tries to keep reporters from using "buzz words" to describe him. He doesn't call himself a white supremacist, although the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center do. "

"Jason Robb, a Harrison, Ark., attorney who represents the Klan's Knights Party, describes himself as a "white nationalist."

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Well, look what I found, the KKK is, surprise, a white nationalist group. And afterall, my dear friend, they'd never even be remotely associated with white supremacy. Why..white supremacists isn't a buzzword..

They're not just saying that as a foolish attempt at making themselves more appealing.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/08/national/main4331869.shtml?source=related_story

(this is Canadian news)

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White nationalism IS white SUPREMACY.

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DAVID DUKE IS A SELF-DESCRIBED WHITE NATIONALIST AND HE IS A HIGH PROFILE LEADER OF THE KKK.

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Also, have you seen Duke talk about his past KKK experience? He doesn't have the same ideology.

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I've yet to see principles of a "white nationalist" that don't explictly support white supreamist ideology.

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Oh, I FORGOT - that's SOO RACIST. Because if tigers were endangered and people went out to help them survive and not become exitinct, THAT WOULD BE RACIST AGAINST LIONS.

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Again, white nationalism is a smokescreen for white supremacism.

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And I'm not the only one who thinks as such.

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"White supremacists - many call themselves nationalists or "White activists," with a capital W - have had limited political success"

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And it all matters what you think a White Nationalist is. Many presidents of the USA have been White Nationalists, is that not political success?

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"Barrett is evasive about his ideology and tries to keep reporters from using "buzz words" to describe him. He doesn't call himself a white supremacist, although the Anti-Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center do. "

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"Jason Robb, a Harrison, Ark., attorney who represents the Klan's Knights Party, describes himself as a "white nationalist."  

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Well, look what I found, the KKK is, surprise, a white nationalist group.

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There is no KKK group that is "The KKK"

But, I am aware that the Knights of the KKK seem to call themselves "The KKK" because of their high numbers - but they are against killing. The KKK (I'm speaking of THE KKK, not any KKK in existence today) can NOT be compared to anything today accurately unless you KNOW what they practice or believe in.

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And afterall, my dear friend, they'd never even be remotely associated with white supremacy.

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Why..white supremacists isn't a buzzword..

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They're not just saying that as a foolish attempt at making themselves more appealing.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/08/national/main4331869.shtml?source=related_story

(this is Canadian news)

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