You make it seem as something simple but it's not, aside from the impediments of something like this happening, the emotional, social, moral, etc, repercussions aren't something that should be taken so lightly. Science should define a line and stick to it.  

Imagine if they did this to half of the population, we are already overpopulated.. and so on. It's not such an easy matter. It needs to be approached from different areas.  

Identity and All those PHYSICAL characteristics that are united to the personality would disappear and so on!  

Ignorance.. I would call it Arrogance towards the bigger picture. Humans are meant to be born, live, reproduce and die.. not be altered to start living again. That would change the whole process. AND i'm not saying this from a religious position.

Post edited at 8:09 pm on Oct. 4, 2008 by Stand Up

Like if I just upgraded computer case the data is still there and it works the same just different on the outside.

I don't think that it would be that drastic of an emotional shock to swap bodies as long as you were full aware of what took place. You would feel uneasy I'm sure but not be thrown into some sort of psychological break down by just your outward appearance being changed. I think you would eventually get over it.

It might freak out somebody's kids or something if they hadn't fully grasped the facts of death and that people could swap bodies but not be the same person. But, for an adult yet again it may only be slightly uneasy or awkward. I'm sure they would know that their body was reused like it would have to be a donor list sort of thing. People can't just do whatever they want with your body you would have to allow them to reuse it.

I don't think science should have lines. How would the world be today if Galileo had never questioned the universe? If he just accepted faith as the divine explanation for everything. What if Newton just accepted things fall because they just do. If we don't question even the simplest things and if we don't push the boundaries of morality for the sake of discovery the world would never have been what it is today.

If we ever achieve the ability to swap bodies, by then I'm sure we could fully clone a human being and we wouldn't even need to feel the shock of stepping into another body. We could grow our own and just keep going from body to body. We don't even have to use a human "body" why not go bionic? The only problem then being that brain cells die off and they don't grow back and eventually we would have to just die. But, near immortality sure would be sweet.

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And how about the family members and friends of the donors body?

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Most of the people would end up in a mental hospital if we talk about his realistically.. if not we several emotional traumas.

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Identity and All those PHYSICAL characteristics that are united to the personality would disappear and so on!

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Imagine if they did this to half of the population, we are already overpopulated.. and so on. It's not such an easy matter. It needs to be approached from different areas.

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The only purpose of such a transplant would be to remove a healthy brain from a dying or damaged body, and as such it would only be useful for a tiny minority of people.

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If the donor explicitly stated that his/her body could be used as the recipient of a brain transplant, then the family and friends have no grounds for complaint.

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Realistically, none of the data we have points to that conclusion.

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If you were used to seeing the same face, body... everything.. they way you smile, walk, etc... and then all of a sudden you found yourself in another body.. gosh don't tell me you wouldn't have a mad breakdown, panic attack, emotional trauma... and so on!  

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People are disfigured by accident and disease all the time. It sucks, and they deal with it. Bodies are just bodies.

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Since when did brain transplants (or rather whole body transplants) = immortality? Brains die too.

The only purpose of such a transplant would be to remove a healthy brain from a dying or damaged body, and as such it would only be useful for a tiny minority of people.

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That raises another question.. What if you were 16 and they put you on a 45 year old body.. Your brain would be going yet you'd age faster and miss half of your life.. or what?

And of course at first it would be a tiny minority but I'm sure once that's done anything could happen... even the world using it as a plastic surgery option.

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I don't think that it would be that drastic of an emotional shock to swap bodies as long as you were full aware of what took place. You would feel uneasy I'm sure but not be thrown into some sort of psychological break down by just your outward appearance being changed. I think you would eventually get over it.  

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Well I'd surely enter panic mode and probably suffer a heart attack. They would have to give me tranquilizers cuz if not I'd scream every time I see myself in the mirror. I don't think knowing would make it any easier. That would just build up the fear. I don't think I'd get over it.. I'd keep looking for myself in the mirror and ended up with an strangers reflection.

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I'm sure they would know that their body was reused like it would have to be a donor list sort of thing. People can't just do whatever they want with your body you would have to allow them to reuse it.

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They key word here is can't... yet come on.. They totally still do it.  

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I don't think science should have lines. How would the world be today if Galileo had never questioned the universe? If he just accepted faith as the divine explanation for everything. What if Newton just accepted things fall because they just do. If we don't question even the simplest things and if we don't push the boundaries of morality for the sake of discovery the world would never have been what it is today.  

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See but that's different. I'm talking about the line of human beings, with feelings and emotions. The fact that they ever got to do this.... would mean lot's of trial and error, which .. of course is dead. No harm should be done to the subject in psychology so why should harm be done to the subject in science? a living subject.. you, me, a love one...  

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If we ever achieve the ability to swap bodies, by then I'm sure we could fully clone a human being and we wouldn't even need to feel the shock of stepping into another body. We could grow our own and just keep going from body to body. We don't even have to use a human "body" why not go bionic? The only problem then being that brain cells die off and they don't grow back and eventually we would have to just die. But, near immortality sure would be sweet.

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That just sounds repulsive. The fact that we would even dream of trying to be like mother nature is scary. Imagine parents going to buy their kids and giving them all of these qualities. We would be all prefabricated humans. That's just wrong. Why alter the natural order of things. We are okay now, no need for more.

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What if they don't tell them? Just do it.

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The fact that they don't have no ground for complain doesn't make it any less hurtful.

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If you were used to seeing the same face, body... everything.. they way you smile, walk, etc... and then all of a sudden you found yourself in another body.. gosh don't tell me you wouldn't have a mad breakdown, panic attack, emotional trauma... and so on!

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Bodies are not just bodies, bodies are part of the person. It's the thing that completes the equation.

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If people can deal with gradual change, there's no reason they can't deal, in time, with sudden change.
 
 

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That raises another question.. What if you were 16 and they put you on a 45 year old body.. Your brain would be going yet you'd age faster and miss half of your life.. or what?

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And of course at first it would be a tiny minority but I'm sure once that's done anything could happen... even the world using it as a plastic surgery option.

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Humans are meant to be born, live, reproduce and die.. not be altered to start living again. That would change the whole process. AND i'm not saying this from a religious position.

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In general I would agree with you. Assuming this is a likely outcome from science and technology within the next 20 years, steps should be made to prevent it being used too early without appropriate discussion. There are huge numbers of issues with it, which you've laid out.

I'm not sure about your reasoning, though. How far should we be able to "alter" patients? Years ago, and for some people still today, "simple" transplants of organs such as kidneys and corneas would've been disturbing to people. Where do you stand on things like organ transplant, cadaveric donation, etc.?

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Humans are meant to be born, live, reproduce and die.. not be altered to start living again. That would change the whole process. AND i'm not saying this from a religious position.

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In general I would agree with you. Assuming this is a likely outcome from science and technology within the next 20 years, steps should be made to prevent it being used too early without appropriate discussion. There are huge numbers of issues with it, which you've laid out.

I'm not sure about your reasoning, though. How far should we be able to "alter" patients? Years ago, and for some people still today, "simple" transplants of organs such as kidneys and corneas would've been disturbing to people. Where do you stand on things like organ transplant, cadaveric donation, etc.?

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I'm an organ donor... I don't have any problem with them, but the issues I have is with science and the ethical issues of certain things. They too raise issues but brain transplant is just a paralyzing thought.

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body harvesting ftw guyz

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Maybe you'll get an 80 year old body. and live a for half a year... and then die from a painful death you weren't supposed to die from .. not to mention that in 6 months i hardly doubt someone would get used to not being themselves.  

Post edited at 4:20 pm on Oct. 5, 2008 by Stand Up

It would be OK, as long as the body was donated with the knowledge and consent of the donor.

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See but that's different. I'm talking about the line of human beings, with feelings and emotions. The fact that they ever got to do this.... would mean lot's of trial and error, which .. of course is dead. No harm should be done to the subject in psychology so why should harm be done to the subject in science? a living subject.. you, me, a love one...

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That just sounds repulsive. The fact that we would even dream of trying to be like mother nature is scary. Imagine parents going to buy their kids and giving them all of these qualities. We would be all prefabricated humans. That's just wrong. Why alter the natural order of things. We are okay now, no need for more.

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