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Sam is like Jerry because he is the posterchild for batshit crazy of Atheism, like Jerry is with fundamentalism. Want to read the cliffnotes version of all Sam's books?

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I just finished reading The End of Faith this evening and would be down for a conversation about its contents, if you like.

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Also, those atheist idiots are the ones I don't like. The normal ones who keep it to themselves are just dandy, but they are few and far between it seems.

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If your impression of a idiotic atheist is that of an atheist who is outspoken, I'm guessing you might be spending too much time browsing this particular forum (subtext: there are many bad threads here). As long as somebody is presenting their point of view in a logical and consistent manner, it shouldn't matter who's talking.

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Can a man lie if he thinks he is talking the truth?

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yes
okay glad that's cleared up

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I just finished reading The End of Faith this evening and would be down for a conversation about its contents, if you like.

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A few years ago maybe, when I was in my prime.

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If your impression of a idiotic atheist is that of an atheist who is outspoken, I'm guessing you might be spending too much time browsing this particular forum (subtext: there are many bad threads here). As long as somebody is presenting their point of view in a logical and consistent manner, it shouldn't matter who's talking.

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My definition of an idiotic atheist who acts like Atheism is a religion.  Fine and dandy if you are, but don't act like the otters on that one South Park episode.

Also, I have the notion that you think I am a Christian or something.  I am an Atheist myself, I just dislike the extremists.  A few years ago I was an angry teenage athiest, but the phase passed.  Honestly, with the idiotic things I was doing I wondered why no one hit me in the face.

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Quote: from Link01 at 5:55 pm on Oct. 25, 2008

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Can a man lie if he thinks he is talking the truth?

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yes
okay glad that's cleared up

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You are extremely stupid

a lie is to say something that you know to be false so if you belive it is true you can't lie

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Why would I hate someone who doesn't believe that unicorns actually exist?

Why would I hate someone who doesn't think that magical space pandas who live the in the sun and have jello space ships don't exist?

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You are extremely stupid  

a lie is to say something that you know to be false so if you belive it is true you can't lie

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i would still argue that if a person is passing down someone else's intentionally concocted untruth to others without being aware of whether or not it's true, then they aren't just a liar but they're also ignorant. you don't have to be intentionally deceptive to communicate a lie.

<ad hominem attack here, for good measure>

but really, what would you call those people?

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A few years ago maybe, when I was in my prime.

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Your angry teenage atheist phase was your prime?

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My definition of an idiotic atheist who acts like Atheism is a religion. Fine and dandy if you are, but don't act like the otters on that one South Park episode.

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Act like it's a religion, how?

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Also, I have the notion that you think I am a Christian or something. I am an Atheist myself, I just dislike the extremists. A few years ago I was an angry teenage athiest, but the phase passed. Honestly, with the idiotic things I was doing I wondered why no one hit me in the face.

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No, you just seemed like a guy who really didn't like Sam Harris.

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Quote: from Link01 at 9:35 am on Oct. 27, 2008

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You are extremely stupid

 a lie is to say something that you know to be false so if you belive it is true you can't lie

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i would still argue that if a person is passing down someone else's intentionally concocted untruth to others without being aware of whether or not it's true, then they aren't just a liar but they're also ignorant. you don't have to be intentionally deceptive to communicate a lie.

<ad hominem attack here, for good measure>

but really, what would you call those people?

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I would not call them liars

Ignorant person you are even more ignorant than moridin at least he could see that you can't really call somone a liar just because you don't agree with what they are saying

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Ignorant person you are even more ignorant than moridin

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let's not say things we can't take back

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at least he could see that you can't really call somone a liar just because you don't agree with what they are saying

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yeah i'm talking about recognizing untruths being perpetuated by people who are just flat out wrong, it has nothing to do with my opinion being different

chill out

Post edited at 6:43 am on Oct. 28, 2008 by SovSull

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Quote: from Link01 at 5:56 am on Oct. 28, 2008

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Ignorant person you are even more ignorant than moridin

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let's not say things we can't take back

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at least he could see that you can't really call somone a liar just because you don't agree with what they are saying

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yeah i'm talking about recognizing untruths being perpetuated by people who are just flat out wrong, it has nothing to do with my opinion being different

chill out

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How many times will it take for this to reach your brain

faith=opinion

difrent opinion no lie

i hope you undertood it now i put it in stupid talk

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used to show time travel's effects.