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Would you abort it or save it?
If you knew your kid was gonna be disabled
Replies: 93Last Post Dec. 27, 2008 4:27am by roflfuckyou
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If you could actually repair it, then sure, keep it.

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It all depends on the quality of life the child would have.  If it had down syndrome, I would probably not abort.  Something like Cerebal Palsy or the like I probably would.  I don't think a child should be brought into the world to suffer.  If they have a good chance at having a good life, then I would keep it, or put it up for adoption, if it didn't have a chance at a good quality life, then I would abort.

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Quote: from ManiacPenguins at 3:19 pm on Sep. 16, 2008

Abort that little shit.

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Quote: from Bacon at 3:57 am on Sep. 22, 2008

er.. The entire point of detecting whether one's newborn will be disabled is to have the opportunity of treating it before birth and potentially repairing it.

Why abort your baby when a disorder/disease at that stage is so premature?



There is no cure for DS.

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Quote: from Glory at 7:57 am on Sep. 22, 2008

It all depends on the quality of life the child would have. If it had down syndrome, I would probably not abort. Something like Cerebal Palsy or the like I probably would. I don't think a child should be brought into the world to suffer. If they have a good chance at having a good life, then I would keep it, or put it up for adoption, if it didn't have a chance at a good quality life, then I would abort.


How is having DS better then having CP? I have CP by the way. I'm just wondering how you see the two disabilities in determining whether you would abort or not. I think both people who have CP and DS suffer.

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With downs syndrome they have a real quality of life.  They can have friends, jobs, and pretty well understand the world around them.  They can go to a normal school, although they do have special classes. In an essense they are nothing but a large child that never grows up, no matter how severe their particual case is.  
Where as cerebal palsy is a brain disorder involving a disfucntion in movement.  Cerebal Palsy tyically puts a kid in a wheel chair for life.  They won't hold jobs, and very rarely are able to attend a real school.  Along with the lowered motor function it is also accompanied by "disturbances of sensation, cognition, communication, perception, and/or behavior, and/or by a seizure disorder".  There can be joint and bone deformities and contractures (permanently fixed, tight muscles and joints). The classical symptoms are spasticity, spasms, other involuntary movements (e.g. facial gestures), unsteady gait, problems with balance, and/or soft tissue findings consisting largely of decreased muscle mass. Scissor walking (where the knees come in and cross) and toe walking are common among people with CP who are able to walk, but taken on the whole, CP symptomatology is very diverse.

You know what you can expect when you get a downs syndrome child.  With cerebal palsy that child is very likely nothing more than a vegetable in a wheel chair and that is not a good quality of life.

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yeah... lesser of two evils kind of thing...

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Quote: from Glory at 6:57 am on Sep. 23, 2008

With downs syndrome they have a real quality of life. They can have friends, jobs, and pretty well understand the world around them. They can go to a normal school, although they do have special classes. In an essense they are nothing but a large child that never grows up, no matter how severe their particual case is.
Where as cerebal palsy is a brain disorder involving a disfucntion in movement. Cerebal Palsy tyically puts a kid in a wheel chair for life. They won't hold jobs, and very rarely are able to attend a real school. Along with the lowered motor function it is also accompanied by "disturbances of sensation, cognition, communication, perception, and/or behavior, and/or by a seizure disorder". There can be joint and bone deformities and contractures (permanently fixed, tight muscles and joints). The classical symptoms are spasticity, spasms, other involuntary movements (e.g. facial gestures), unsteady gait, problems with balance, and/or soft tissue findings consisting largely of decreased muscle mass. Scissor walking (where the knees come in and cross) and toe walking are common among people with CP who are able to walk, but taken on the whole, CP symptomatology is very diverse.

You know what you can expect when you get a downs syndrome child. With cerebal palsy that child is very likely nothing more than a vegetable in a wheel chair and that is not a good quality of life.



I can't even argue with you because the situation you described here is very similar to mine. Although about the vegetable thing there is a girl on here who has CP and she says she uses crutches.  

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That's the thing, there is no telling how bad it will be.  I won't have the child hoping that it will be one of the very few that isn't a vegetable.

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I'd keep it, it would be harder then having a child without DS but I would still love the child.

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i'd keep it.. abortions shouldnt be an option.. shouldnt lay in a bed with another if you cant be responsible for the outcome.

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Quote: from carmen2487 at 10:17 pm on Sep. 23, 2008

i'd keep it.. abortions shouldnt be an option.. shouldnt lay in a bed with another if you cant be responsible for the outcome.
Ok, so if a married couple wants a child but doesn't want a disabled one, they shouldn't have sex.  Right.  

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Id abort a child even if it had any sort of fuckups like that

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Quote: from musicfan3 at 10:22 am on Sep. 24, 2008

Quote: from Glory at 6:57 am on Sep. 23, 2008

With downs syndrome they have a real quality of life.  They can have friends, jobs, and pretty well understand the world around them.  They can go to a normal school, although they do have special classes. In an essense they are nothing but a large child that never grows up, no matter how severe their particual case is.    
 Where as cerebal palsy is a brain disorder involving a disfucntion in movement.  Cerebal Palsy tyically puts a kid in a wheel chair for life.  They won't hold jobs, and very rarely are able to attend a real school.  Along with the lowered motor function it is also accompanied by "disturbances of sensation, cognition, communication, perception, and/or behavior, and/or by a seizure disorder".  There can be joint and bone deformities and contractures (permanently fixed, tight muscles and joints). The classical symptoms are spasticity, spasms, other involuntary movements (e.g. facial gestures), unsteady gait, problems with balance, and/or soft tissue findings consisting largely of decreased muscle mass. Scissor walking (where the knees come in and cross) and toe walking are common among people with CP who are able to walk, but taken on the whole, CP symptomatology is very diverse.  

 You know what you can expect when you get a downs syndrome child.  With cerebal palsy that child is very likely nothing more than a vegetable in a wheel chair and that is not a good quality of life.


 
I can't even argue with you because the situation you described here is very similar to mine. Although about the vegetable thing there is a girl on here who has CP and she says she uses crutches.  


That'd be me. Yes, CP does vary quite extensively. Parents just have to accept their child for who they are, disabled or not. At least that's what my parents did.

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I don't want to bring a child into the world to suffer, and not lead a happy productive life.  It's far more than accepting the child.  It's accepting the fact that if you love your children you would do what is best for them, even if it means preventing their suffering.

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