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Quote: from superchris4000 at 9:37 am on Sep. 18, 2008I don't get why non believers don't believe! There is tons of stuff that they believe that have no proof for them! For example, lets take the laws of physics. You know they are mostly true. But, do you have proof? No!

Incorrect. We have proof of the laws of physics.

Perhaps if you actually understood these laws, you wouldn't make such a truly asinine post.

http://physics.about.com/od/physics101thebasics/p/PhysicsLaws.htm

You're believing other people who supposedly found proof!

Incorrect again.

I can test gravity. Newton's laws of motion have been proven in space.

Then why can't you believe in God[/quote[

because I can't test or see evidence for such a being.

This isn't hard.

I would rather believe that an omnipotent being is correct than a Physicist! Atheists just don't believe in God because they don't understand it! They don't understand the concept of God or why God does things. If I could understand God, he wouldn't be God then would he? Plus, he promises that all will be revealed when we get to heaven. Why can't atheists just learn to trust?

1) Your argument is based on fundamental ignorance of the basics laws of physics
2) Your argument is obviously further based on don't know = Goddidit
3) You believe because you are ignorant

Try again when you have some decent skills and an education.

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What? Proof? So when someone's falling from a 20 story building thanks to gravity (PHYSICS) that's not proof? The reason people believe in Physics is because it can be proven.

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Epic God/Logic Fail O.o

I hope you weren't serious.  Besides, If God is real, Ill bet money hes a physicist :P  

And whoever said that about atoms, You're an idiot. That is all.


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1) Your argument is based on fundamental ignorance of the basics laws of physics
2) Your argument is obviously further based on don't know = Goddidit
3) You believe because you are ignorant

Well said

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Now, I got nothing about believing. I'm just against stupid reasons for believing. Like ignorance.

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First off, I dont disbelieve because I dont understand the concept of God. I understand it just fine, and I study it to understand it further.

i dont believe because there is absolutely no reason for me to do so. it will not effect the way I live my life. Add this to the fact that there is NO evidence for his existence (Your physics example? Yeah, there's at least some evidence pointing to it; Did i dot he exp4eriments myself? No, but multiple credited people have, and you can see the results) other than the Bible. And, as we all know, fictional books are often written; whose to say this isnt just as much someone's fantasy as Alice in Wonderland?


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Quote: from superchris4000 at 12:37 pm on Sep. 18, 2008

I don't get why non believers don't believe! There is tons of stuff that they believe that have no proof for them! For example, lets take the laws of physics. You know they are mostly true. But, do you have proof? No! You're believing other people who supposedly found proof!

I know this is hard for you to accept but that's not actually how it works. Physical laws can be independantly tested and verified. While specific individuals may've codified and described physical laws, they are not the only people capable of providing proof for their validity. It's not like prophecy. In science, you don't take people's word for anything.



Atheists just don't believe in God because they don't understand it! They don't understand the concept of God or why God does things.

"The concept of God" is not complex, and I guarentee you that anyone introduced to the idea of a god can understand it. That includes atheists. This is a very common claim, and indeed one of the stupidest. "If you understood it you'd believe it." No. We understand, and we don't believe.



If I could understand God, he wouldn't be God then would he?

You were talking about understanding the concept of God, not understanding "God" himself. Those are different, you know. Even you understand the concept of God.


Plus, he promises that all will be revealed when we get to heaven. Why can't atheists just learn to trust?

If God had told atheists that, it'd be a sure bet they would trust him. The problem is that God has never said anything to anyone. People claim to talk to him all the time, but they've no proof.

Why don't you trust Ahura Mazda? the Mazda promises us he'll win the cosmic battle with evil and all will be well. Why can't you Christians just learn to trust?


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im atheist because i am too logical to actually believe that there is an invisible man that lives in the clouds and sees everything we do. he makes all sorts of promises that cant possibly come true. besides, didnt i hear that you should never believe a promise from a man? god is stereotypically male. i cant believe in something like that. i used to go to sunday school and church and i have read the bible and everything. some of my best freinds are extremely devout christians. but i just cant believe that.

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Quote: from superchris4000 at 12:37 pm on Sep. 18, 2008

I don't get why non believers don't believe! There is tons of stuff that they believe that have no proof for them! For example, lets take the laws of physics. You know they are mostly true. But, do you have proof? No! You're believing other people who supposedly found proof! Then why can't you believe in God. I would rather believe that an omnipotent being is correct than a Physicist! Atheists just don't believe in God because they don't understand it! They don't understand the concept of God or why God does things. If I could understand God, he wouldn't be God then would he? Plus, he promises that all will be revealed when we get to heaven. Why can't atheists just learn to trust?

Why don't you believe in, say, Egyptian gods? Or some of the son gods? Or any other 'pagan' beliefs? Or any other ancient religions? Or Islam? Or Hinduism? Or Buddhism? Confucianism? Taoism? Judaism? Why don't you believe in some of those religions? Do you maybe 'not understand them'? Or is it just that you were not brought up with belief in those religions, so now you find them all false.

Personally, if I chose which religion to believe in, I'd go with the oldest one, because it was at least the first one with the whole religious concept.

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Because it's a waste of time...

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