Which are you?
Do you think it's possible to be both?
Would you rather be bored or lonely for the rest of your life?

Discuss.

Post edited at 2:57 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 by ForeignFishes

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Punk rock died when the first kid said, "Punk's not dead."

Are we all lonely and misunderstood?

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Punk rock died when the first kid said, "Punk's not dead."

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I would rather be a wolf,
however don't they go around in pacts?
So they wouldn't be lonely.

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Way to take the meaning out of the question and rape it in the ass.

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Punk rock died when the first kid said, "Punk's not dead."

Post edited at 3:06 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 by the real anti christ

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Out of smoke then he appears

Master of disguise.

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But honestly there are many people who are not misunderstood but who are leaders. Being misunderstood/loner and being a leader and an innovater are not always mutual. You analogy is bad, nobody will ever admit to being a sheep. Even people who are sheep. Everyone wants to be viewed by the world as misunderstood and superiorly intelligent.

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So you think there is no validity in the statement? You could pick apart any analogy or any musing until it sounds ridiculous and inapplicable. It takes a powerful, self-aware person to be part of a pack but also their own person equally. Are you certain you can be both a follower and a loner simultaneously?

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Punk rock died when the first kid said, "Punk's not dead."

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Quote: from the real anti christ at 3:05 pm on Sep. 21, 2008

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But honestly there are many people who are not misunderstood but who are leaders. Being misunderstood/loner and being a leader and an innovater are not always mutual. You analogy is bad, nobody will ever admit to being a sheep. Even people who are sheep. Everyone wants to be viewed by the world as misunderstood and superiorly intelligent.

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So you think there is no validity in the statement? You could pick apart any analogy or any musing until it sounds ridiculous and inapplicable. It takes a powerful, self-aware person to be part of a pack but also their own person equally. Are you certain you can be both a follower and a loner simultaneously?

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Quote: from ForeignFishes at 5:16 pm on Sep. 21, 2008

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Quote: from the real anti christ at 3:05 pm on Sep. 21, 2008

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But honestly there are many people who are not misunderstood but who are leaders. Being misunderstood/loner and being a leader and an innovater are not always mutual. You analogy is bad, nobody will ever admit to being a sheep. Even people who are sheep. Everyone wants to be viewed by the world as misunderstood and superiorly intelligent.

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 So you think there is no validity in the statement? You could pick apart any analogy or any musing until it sounds ridiculous and inapplicable. It takes a powerful, self-aware person to be part of a pack but also their own person equally. Are you certain you can be both a follower and a loner simultaneously?

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Yes I think there is no validity as it is stated. People who are "misunderstood" and loners are almost valueless to society and so by a purely utilitarian view are sheep. If you had said are you a sheep or a leader then it would have made more sense.

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I think you misunderstand. It's not about leaders nor value to society. It's about loners and followers and personal fulfillment. My question is can you be both an individual and a follower at once? And can you only really be fulfilled if you ARE both?

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Punk rock died when the first kid said, "Punk's not dead."

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Wolves are not lonely they are tucking pack animals and extremely social.

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It's a metaphor.

It's not about leadership. It's about loners.

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Punk rock died when the first kid said, "Punk's not dead."

Also you are a lot less likely to be bored in a group. I think it's funny so many here would close to be a loner:

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O` tru apothecary!
Thy drugs are quick.
Thus with a kiss I die.

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What is the point in being a loner? I can see zero benefits to having no social network whatsoever. If you need time to yourself you can get it easily without being a loner and you certainly aren't a leader if you're alone.

Also you are a lot less likely to be bored in a group. I think it's funny so many here would close to be a loner:

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FOR THE LAST TIME IT IS NOT ABOUT LEADERSHIP!!

For me actually, I am never bored when I am by myself. If I'm alone, I can do whatever the fuck I want to and usually it ends up being productive or at least entertaining enough to keep me busy. Not to say that I am never entertained when in a group, but what is more awkward than being bored in a big group? It is unproductive.

It all depends on the person. Some people just don't thrive in group atmospheres.

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Punk rock died when the first kid said, "Punk's not dead."

I'm not bored bymyself either but I get more emotional stimulation in a group and enjoy a group more, to each his own though I was answering from my perspective.

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O` tru apothecary!
Thy drugs are quick.
Thus with a kiss I die.

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Quote: from themagicposition at 2:55 pm on Sep. 21, 2008

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I would rather be a wolf,  
 however don't they go around in pacts?  
 So they wouldn't be lonely.

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Way to take the meaning out of the question and rape it in the ass.

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haha but he has a point

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You only live once...but if you work it right, once is enough.