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Should he steal the medicine?
Replies: 33Last Post Nov. 21, 2008 1:31pm by SpM
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Here's a hypothetical situation:  In Europe, a woman was near death from a special kind of cancer.  There was one drug that the doctors thought might save her.  It was a form of radium that a druggist in the same town had recently discovered.  The drug was expensive to make, but the druggist was charging ten times what the drug cost to make.  He paid $200 for the radium and charged $2000 for a small dose of the drug.  The sick woman's husband went to everyone he knew to borrow some money, but he cold only get together about $1000.  He told the druggist that his wife was dying and asked him to sell it cheaper or let him pay later.  But the druggist said, "No, I discovered the drug, and I'm going to make money from it."  So he got desperate and began to think about breaking into the man's store to steal the drug for his wife.  Should he do it?

We talked about this scenario in class today, and I want to hear your thoughts.

Post edited at 2:17 pm on Nov. 11, 2008 by Aero360

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To be a good man, he must steal it.

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If there's absolutely no other way to save her, he should try to steal it. Obviously.

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He should steal it, and leave what money he can. He's going for the maximal good here, and nobody is actually losing anything, sans the druggist and his greed for more. But since he'd not make any money in the wife dies scenario even he comes out on top.

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This is the classic story that highlights the differences in pre-conventional, conventional, and post-conventional morality.

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well no, because he could end up in prison, and what would his wife do then. Shes not working and her husband isnt working.

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I swear to god I see this topic every six months.

Socrates would say no.

I would say yes.


Who to believe...

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Ok I changed my mind he should rob a bank and pay the good doctor the full amount.


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I came across it when I studied Psych...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_dilemma


The problem is often used to evaluate moral development --

the majority of adults would of course steal the drug.. children however, often actually claim that "stealing is wrong and thus, we should not take the drug"

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I bet if you did the experiment like this.

"your mom has a fatal disease, the cure is on this table. She can't afford it so she's going to die." leave the room

I bet that shit would get stolen so hard.

Obviously you have to do it differently to fairlytest a kid

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i would
i mean obviously theft is unethical
but its life or death and that's what matters

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I would steal the drug and put $300

I should pray and ask God that he would heal her, and reveal to me what I should do

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Quote: from Aero360 at 2:16 pm on Nov. 11, 2008

Here's a hypothetical situation: In Europe, a woman was near death from a special kind of cancer. There was one drug that the doctors thought might save her. It was a form of radium that a druggist in the same town had recently discovered. The drug was expensive to make, but the druggist was charging ten times what the drug cost to make. He paid $200 for the radium and charged $2000 for a small dose of the drug. The sick woman's husband went to everyone he knew to borrow some money, but he cold only get together about $1000. He told the druggist that his wife was dying and asked him to sell it cheaper or let him pay later. But the druggist said, "No, I discovered the drug, and I'm going to make money from it." So he got desperate and began to think about breaking into the man's store to steal the drug for his wife. Should he do it?

We talked about this scenario in class today, and I want to hear your thoughts.


Should he do it?

Hell yes! He should steal the drug. Not only that, he should beat the druggist to death and steal the wallet and mobile phone off the corpse, ravish his wife/mistress, kill their two pet dogs, loot their house and then burn it the ground.

Then the man should return home and smother his wife to death, collect on the life insurance, and sell the radium for $10,000 to some dumb motherfucker who is stupid enough to try and save his nagging wife (or husband, for that matter)!

The answer is obvious, really.


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I'd steal it. Maybe leave $200 on the guy's counter so he's not at a loss

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Theft is theft, whether you leave him $200 or not. So you might as well just go the whole distance so you can afford that jewel encrusted golden dildo.

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