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Quote: from mama16advice at 9:20 am on Nov. 20, 2008

you know in my opinion there is no point to it. There will be no complete exstinction of one race. Give it up. you know? People dont realize that we are no and endangered people so we arent going anywhere anytime soon. So kkk, storm front, and whoever has a pointless mission.

its all just an excuse to hate blacks/other races

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You're willing to live iwth the possiblity of a 10% eror in testing? You're willing to risk your precious race being accidentally xposed to some nonwhites and suddenly ending up with balck babies from white parents?
AncestrybyDNA is a public testing.

If a White nation existed, genetics would be a high priority - and these tests would improve (and they are STILL improving over time).


you know in my opinion there is no point to it. There will be no complete exstinction of one race. Give it up. you know? People dont realize that we are no and endangered people so we arent going anywhere anytime soon. So kkk, storm front, and whoever has a pointless mission.
Where do you come to this conclusion?

How many Whites do you think there are? How many were there? What are their birth rates? What are their birth rates compared to other races? How "White" are all Whites - did you know any child born from a White woman is considered 'White' unless the mother states otherwise?


its all just an excuse to hate blacks/other races
Not really...

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:14 pm on Nov. 20, 2008


You're willing to live iwth the possiblity of a 10% eror in testing? You're willing to risk your precious race being accidentally xposed to some nonwhites and suddenly ending up with balck babies from white parents?
AncestrybyDNA is a public testing.

If a White nation existed, genetics would be a high priority - and these tests would improve (and they are STILL improving over time).


you know in my opinion there is no point to it. There will be no complete exstinction of one race. Give it up. you know? People dont realize that we are no and endangered people so we arent going anywhere anytime soon. So kkk, storm front, and whoever has a pointless mission.
Where do you come to this conclusion?

How many Whites do you think there are? How many were there? What are their birth rates? What are their birth rates compared to other races? How "White" are all Whites - did you know any child born from a White woman is considered 'White' unless the mother states otherwise?


its all just an excuse to hate blacks/other races
Not really...

http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2006/05/12/us-population-now-one-third-minority.htm

On this website it says that the country's total pop it 296.4 million. I calculated minorities and we only came up to be 96.8 million of that. Thats still leaves 199.6 million to whites/majorities.

As of birth rates...even though they are dropping, they havent stopped. So babies are still being born meaning populations are still rising. So like I said...we are people who are not endangered. So...whats the point on trying to fight that.

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http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2006/05/12/us-population-now-one-third-minority.htm

On this website it says that the country's total pop it 296.4 million. I calculated minorities and we only came up to be 96.8 million of that. Thats still leaves 199.6 million to whites/majorities.

As of birth rates...even though they are dropping, they havent stopped. So babies are still being born meaning populations are still rising. So like I said...we are people who are not endangered. So...whats the point on trying to fight that.



Explain this than:
"Today, largely because of immigration, there is no majority race in Hawaii or Houston or New York City... In a little more than 50 years there will be no majority race in the United States."
-- President Clinton, Portland State University Commencement, June 13, 1998

And you do know what "White" is considered in the USA? Anyone born by a White mom (regardless of dad) unless they tell otherwise. Puerto Ricans and Cubans, many times mixed, are considered "White" too.

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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well to my understanding, if you have any type of minority in you then you are considered that minority

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Quote: from mama16advice at 6:03 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

well to my understanding, if you have any type of minority in you then you are considered that minority
"In a little more than 50 years there will be no majority race in the United States."

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Good. ^^^

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Quote: from jakelong at 8:19 pm on Nov. 20, 2008

Good. ^^^
Why?

What's so great about that Jakelong?

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Whats not great about it?


lol@ using the same circular reasoning as KR

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Good for you - I'm sure some of them do that.

Yup.


In a poll on stormfront only 8% viewed themselves as White Supremacists - or White Supremacists and National Socialists and White Nationalists.

The rest weren't - and the poll was anonymous.



It doesn't look good on you're resume to call yourself a "white supremacist". Of course they're going to try to delude themselves otherwise.


I agree, but he is not White or Black at all - he is mixed.


So you're saying the combination of genetics of both white and black do not hold any importance or significance?


No, it isn't.
Whites themselves wouldn't exist in true form - only in bits and pieces inside of other people.
It takes away the beaty of each race when people mix.


Yes, bits and pieces - its not true extinction unless they're gone for good.

The beauty of each race is "taken away" when people "mix"? Well isn't that all a matter of opinion? Quite frankly, I've seen some very beautiful mixed-race individuals..


I don't think he directly claimed he agreed with the fact that they were were White Supremacists - but that they thought that Negroes belong in Africa.


Negroes belong wherever they're wanted.


Prove it. I, myself, don't think being a genius is a choice. Your genes are a big influence on intelligence.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=high-aptitude-minds" target="_top">http://http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=high-aptitude-minds


Yeah, genetics plays a large role, but then, even in that article it still makes a point of saying that genius is something that is earned through determination and hard work.. The genetics may make someone have an easier time to achieve "genius" but that doesn't mean someone without these genetic improvements can't ever achieve the same greatness..


Not really.
Then again - it matters what you think makes a "Big" difference.

I could say humans and chimpanzees are very alike and that's about it. We're all primates!



The genetic difference between humans and chimpanzees is far greater than that of two different human races. And if you believe otherwise, let's see some solid (non-theoretical) evidence.
 

You're implying humans aren't diverse enough to really be different besides with cultural influence. That is false.


No, that's not what I am implying. Your interpretation was false.


PROVE IT.
So far, nobody has. Not the greatest scientists, and not Guns, Germs, and Steel - which agrees with you.
The author says that racial achievement is ONLY due to culture - and genetics have nothing to do with it.

What he fails to do is PROVE it. Not once in his book has he proven it.



It's difficult to prove something that may happen in the future - just ask Futurists.


A mixed raced individual doesn't have a distinct race - only a mix of them.

It WOULD be raceless as the world would no longer have the diversity between groups of people that it previously did. APART from "Skin color."



No, mixed-race individuals would have traits similar (note: I did not say exactly the same) to that of their singular race parents, it's simple genetics.
It would not be "raceless" as there are many, many combinations of mixed-race people (in fact, you said so yourself..) so the diversity would still exist (beyond skin colour).


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Whats not great about it?
I'm not the one calling it great.
You made a claim, back it up or it gets dismissed.


It doesn't look good on you're resume to call yourself a "white supremacist". Of course they're going to try to delude themselves otherwise.
Good thing that the poll was anonymous - and White Supremacy isn't hated as much there as in the real world.


You can go to Stormfront as a WS and not make too many enemies, but not too many friends either.



So you're saying the combination of genetics of both white and black do not hold any importance or significance?
Where did I say this?

I agree that the child has Black and White ancestry, but that is still one less White or Black child in existence.



Yes, bits and pieces - its not true extinction unless they're gone for good.
Not really.
There is still some genetic residue from Dinosaurs in the species of today - yet they are extinct.

Extinct:
no longer in existence; that has ended or died out

If Whites no longer exist, they are extinct.


Negroes belong wherever they're wanted.
Don't talk to me about it, it wasn't me that said it.



Yeah, genetics plays a large role, but then, even in that article it still makes a point of saying that genius is something that is earned through determination and hard work.. The genetics may make someone have an easier time to achieve "genius" but that doesn't mean someone without these genetic improvements can't ever achieve the same greatness..
Well, you have to look at it this way.

If a natural genius sits around playing PS3 all day and never learns or challenges his brain - and someone that isn't naturally a genius does work at it, they may come to the same intelligence level.

But, a genius given the same circumstances as one that wasn't a natural genius will come out more intelligent.

This is where genetics plays a role - and the role is great.

If you understand what a bell curve is, it never goes to 0%. It decreases and decreases and, eventually, will be at 0.0000001% - but never at exact 0.

This is the same with intelligence. The level of intelligence may be endless, but it's easier to achieve higher with certain people than others.


The genetic difference between humans and chimpanzees is far greater than that of two different human races. And if you believe otherwise, let's see some solid (non-theoretical) evidence.
Oh, I do know this.

But, I said, it matters what you think is a "Big" difference.

You could say the genetic difference between the races of humans is great - and that would make the Chimpanzee difference great.

Many people say racial differences are small and Chimpanzee differences are large - but where is the cutoff? Is there an exact number or is it all just a human creation on how different we are?
Percentages are better for this, and Masatoshi Nei and Arun K. Roychoudhury have proven that the differences between two races of humans can be only 1/9 the size of Humans and Chimpanzees - which are located in a separate genus!

If you look up the genetic difference between humans and Neanderthals (a whole difference species) - you can find out that some races can be 1/2 the difference between two other species - in my opinion enough to say race exists and is undeniable.


No, that's not what I am implying. Your interpretation was false.
Good, do you believe race is more than just appearance?


It's difficult to prove something that may happen in the future - just ask Futurists.
He isn't proving the future - but an alternate universe.

He is trying (and failing) to prove that if you take Whites and put them in Africa, and Blacks and put them in Europe (many years ago) - Europe would have still leapfrogged past the rest of Earth (especially Africa).

That's his way of saying race isn't anything and that civilization is a result of culture and location.



No, mixed-race individuals would have traits similar (note: I did not say exactly the same) to that of their singular race parents, it's simple genetics.

It would be 1/2 and 1/2.


No, mixed-race individuals would have traits similar (note: I did not say exactly the same) to that of their singular race parents, it's simple genetics.
There will be no Whites. There will be no Blacks. There will be no races - just mixes.

The races of Earth are diverse, different (in many ways besides skin), and beautiful.

They should not be destroyed by mixing.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:58 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

I'm not the one calling it great.
You made a claim, back it up or it gets dismissed.

Are you trying to say it is NOT great?  

Circular reasoning FTW

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Quote: from jakelong at 10:56 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 12:58 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

I'm not the one calling it great.  
 You made a claim, back it up or it gets dismissed.

Are you trying to say it is NOT great?  

Circular reasoning FTW


Circular reasoning is when you give a reason that is backed up by a reason taht backs up the previous reason.

Why does x = 7? Because 7 and x are the same. Why are they the same? Because x = 7.

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aryans are white. Why are they white? Because they are aryans..

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Quote: from jakelong at 11:56 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

aryans are white. Why are they white? Because they are aryans..
The words are synonymous as it is - which is why it's hard to explain.

But if you need it - the Aryans were the people that migrated into Europe, Asia, India, etc that are the basis of Whites today.

The least mixed form of them is located in Europe - therefore they are the BIOLOGICAL Aryans, but going by linguistic, it would be the Indians or Iranians or whoever.

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