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They seem to all hate Jewish people - all of them. Massively.

Generalizing? No. Truth.

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And Stormfront is as much about white supremacy as it is survival. Everyone there is just a little nuts..

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We don't give a shit whether you want the white race to continue to survive or not - that's your own business.

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But seriously.. The racial hate on communities such as StormFront is mind-boggling. And they don't accept criticism well either - I joined on there not too long and expressed my opinion (that the white race combining with others is not necessarily a bad thing - nor is it really "extinction") and I was banned. No warning, no argument, nothing.

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When I visited after Obama's election - I visited the opposing views forum and saw plenty of posts saying the EXACT SAME THING.

Also, how is Whites mixing out so no more Whites exist not extinction?

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As soon as you start throwing around remarks like "inferior races", we know we can't take you seriously.

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And just for the record: it is not the achievements of a race that defines it. It is the achievements of humanity that defines every race.

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You define yourself. Races define themselves.

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Whites were originally black.

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Over one hundred million years ago - People were almost identical to Blacks nowadays? Whites have really only existed a few million years - Blacks have existed for maybe 200,000,000 and hadn't even invented the wheel?

HA!

I think your definition of "Black" is wrong - or you're delusional.

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Assimilation is inevitable and good.

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Where did you come to the 115 IQ for Asians?

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Funny when WN racists fight over the fact that Asians pawn whites big time  

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He attributed whites' superiority to the stereotype that whites are physically stronger than nations, as if physical strength had anything significant to do with what happened during the last 500 years which allowed to the European powers to rise.

It's pretty lol when your entire argument revolves around stereotypes.  He at least was able to bring in IQ statistics, though I'm skeptical of its source.

Post edited at 9:27 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 by Bud2400

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They hate Zionists - not all Jews (though, I agree, some of them do hate Jews)

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People seem to not understand WHAT White supremacy is.

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Speak for YOURSELF! Many people DO oppose Whites keeping their race in existence and say things like "It's destiny for all races to mix!"  

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Pretty odd. Did you post it in opposing views? Did you break any rules?

When I visited after Obama's election - I visited the opposing views forum and saw plenty of posts saying the EXACT SAME THING.  

Also, how is Whites mixing out so no more Whites exist not extinction?

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It's not extinction because whites still exist - just in a different form. If a white person and a black person copulate to make a mixed race child, that child is of black and white heritage and genetics..

Mixed race people are combinations of races.. You can only have a true "extinction" of a race if the race does not exist in ANY form. Somebody of mixed race that includes a white heritage will still have white heritage.

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I don't know if thetruthteller himself thinks other races are inferior - but Washington, Jefferson, and many others of that time did - that may be what he meant.

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Explain, because if that were true, if someone happens to be a genius and sitting right next to me - does that make me one?  

You define yourself. Races define themselves.

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A race is a group of people - but that's pretty much it. There's some genetic (aesthetic) differences of which we know of, but in reality, each race is pretty much the same as each other - we are all human.  

If somebody (of any race) does something good or productive for humanity, humanity reaps the benefits and it is a property of humanity - a potential.  

So if a race achieves great advancement for its species, it means that any race of this species has the opportunity and potential to achieve in a similar respect. Just because some races are quicker or luckier, doesn't mean other races cannot achieve the same - eventually.  

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Are you saying that, in millions of years, Blacks did not evolve at all?  

Over one hundred million years ago - People were almost identical to Blacks nowadays? Whites have really only existed a few million years - Blacks have existed for maybe 200,000,000 and hadn't even invented the wheel?  

HA!  

I think your definition of "Black" is wrong - or you're delusional.  

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My definition of "Black" is essentially one of skin-colour in this respect - I was not referring to the black people of today.

Originally, man began as what can only be described as "black" in appearance.

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Let me ask you this - if it was in your power, would you make all races mix out into a raceless world - or let all of the races keep their characteristics, cultures, and beauty?

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I don't think you understand what mixed race is - its a combination of races. A combination of genetic traits from all races involved.  
Raceless? Only if you don't give two shits about genetic hereditary..

Post edited at 10:25 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 by Bacon

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It's pretty lol when your entire argument revolves around stereotypes.

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though I'm skeptical of its source.

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Whats lol is when WN use tha same stats to "prove"  
that blacks are inferior in IQ to whites  
and which "proves"  
that whites are inferior in IQ to asians

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Well, he does give a reason as to why whites would not be inferior to Asians, though I gotta admit, it's perhaps the poorest reasoning possible, but you gotta give him credit - he does at least try.

White nationalists usually use that stuff to illustrate the point that not all races are equal, and a supremacist would take it as far as to suggest that it proves that blacks and latinos are inferior to whites and Asians (and that whites are superior to Asians in some other manner).  Usually the statistics are not so extreme, though (in almost all cases I've seen, blacks are never below 90 [and not in the borderline mentally retarded range that the guy suggests] and Asians never over 105).

It certainly makes sense.  Seems as far as white supremacists go, their general "preference" for races goes white > Asian > Semites / latinos > Jews / Native Americans / Australian Aborigines / blacks.  A white supremacist once told me that a white and Asian intermixing is just plain wrong; but a white and black intermixing is beastiality.

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Funny when WN racists fight over the fact that Asians pawn whites big time

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Then agian, vocal seems to need more brain power than math - which pushes the East-Mongol scores higher than Whites. But, of course, Whites outscore in vocal.

And Jews have 115 IQ's - which is what I thought he mixed them up with.

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I've seen topics where they simply bad-mouth anyone who looks like a "stereotypical" Jew - even if they aren't Jewish or Zionist..

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No, it's quite obvious: it's blatantly saying the white race is superior to others..  

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The rest weren't - and the poll was anonymous.

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Yeah, all of my posts were in the "opposing views" forum.

It's not extinction because whites still exist - just in a different form. If a white person and a black person copulate to make a mixed race child, that child is of black and white heritage and genetics..

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Mixed race people are combinations of races.. You can only have a true "extinction" of a race if the race does not exist in ANY form. Somebody of mixed race that includes a white heritage will still have white heritage.

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Lol, read his post. He starts off by listing the "average IQ" of all these races and then definitely implies that he agrees with Washington and Jefferson etc.  

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If somebody is a genius and you are not, you have the potential to be one as well - unless that genius is not human.

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A race is a group of people - but that's pretty much it. There's some genetic (aesthetic) differences of which we know of, but in reality, each race is pretty much the same as each other - we are all human.  

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I could say humans and chimpanzees are very alike and that's about it. We're all primates!

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If somebody (of any race) does something good or productive for humanity, humanity reaps the benefits and it is a property of humanity - a potential.

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So if a race achieves great advancement for its species, it means that any race of this species has the opportunity and potential to achieve in a similar respect. Just because some races are quicker or luckier, doesn't mean other races cannot achieve the same - eventually.  

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What he fails to do is PROVE it. Not once in his book has he proven it.

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My definition of "Black" is essentially one of skin-colour in this respect - I was not referring to the black people of today.

Originally, man began as what can only be described as "black" in appearance.

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I don't think you understand what mixed race is - its a combination of races. A combination of genetic traits from all races involved.  
Raceless? Only if you don't give two shits about genetic hereditary..

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It WOULD be raceless as the world would no longer have the diversity between groups of people that it previously did. APART from "Skin color."

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but you gotta give him credit - he does at least try.

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Seems as far as white supremacists go, their general "preference" for races goes white > Asian > Semites / latinos > Jews / Native Americans / Australian Aborigines / blacks. A white supremacist once told me that a white and Asian intermixing is just plain wrong; but a white and black intermixing is beastiality.

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By and large, it is a white supremacy group that parades itself as a white nationalist group. Though, I'm sure there are members that aren't supremacist, the fact remains that by joining Stormfront, you are waving a white flag (pun intended) and allowing people to define you.

I don't join the soccer team if I don't wish to be called a soccer player and I don't join the KKK if I don't wish to be called upon for the violence and barbery of the orgnization. One of the reasons why white nationalism is a smokescreen for white supremacy is because of the KKK. It is a "white nationalist" group, when in truth, even if it has nationalist principles (and these don't differ in hatred filled supremacy rhetoric), it is essentially a group that grossly dislikes, degrades (through insults; calling people beasts, etc)), and discriminates against members of different ethnic groups that they don't like. Usually, the people they most dislike are blacks, and this is probably due to the long history between said peoples. The Stormfront website avidly supports the white supremacy in the form of worshipping (I use this word because it seems as such) high profile KKK members and placing advertisements that pertain to such organizations and ideals. It is contradictory to say you only like apples and grow apple trees, but have orange trees in your backyard, and are constantly picking oranges.

You claim to be an apple tree man; but your biggest tree is that of an orange. And you're fattest fruit is that of orange as well.

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On the topic of IQ, as long as the Flynn effect continues to exist, we will see an increase in IQ in impoverished peoples. Since this forum is constantly debating blacks (this may be because of the blatant dislike and rampant fanaticism shown by certain members), as if they are no other people to debate, this relates to native Africans as well. And humans, by and large, are mixed. And we attribute all our discoveries to humanity because that is ultimately, the most important thing. The little scuffles between us for territory, superiority, and power are not important.

And, for the record, one  ultimately claims fame for his accomplishments individually and for the sake of humanity. This is inherent. And by and large, to see any racial contention is this conclusion would greatly undermine the homogeneous nature of our people, and facilitate divisiveness in that which need not be divided. We need not see the extremity in every situation and relate everything to seperatism. Unfortunately, for some, and fortunately, for others, we live a multicultural society (most of us) and thus, "mixing together in the future", is something that will ultimately happen when one chooses to live in such a place. It is against the foundation and against the ideals of such as nation to propose preservation and seperation of a certain group of people. If you do not like multiculturalism, you may move because you will have to be pretty revolutionary, clever and advantageous to override years of fighting for unity.

Post edited at 2:37 am on Nov. 19, 2008 by Takinam

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Reunite as a people, you mean like irish people want to stay irish and purtuguese want to stay purtuguese.

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No - I mean like creating a nation for our Folk and preserving our race - instead of fighting over pointless boundaries in wars.

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No one is pure anything you fucking WN moron.

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Prove it.

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Honestly, I would not want to live in a 'White Superstate', because what define it would be the hardest to determine.

To what extent would Latin Americans be allowed in? Would they need blood tests? 90% of Argentina is white, so is 60% of Brasil and 10% of Mexico. How would they be screened for their 'purity'.

And as Fantazia said, nothing is pure you WN fucking moron. I'm completely European, 150 years of my family being outside Europe there has not been one 'dark' ancestor. In fact, 100% of my ancestors lived in the British Isles 200 years ago, so my entire lineage is comprised of British, Scottish, Irish and Welsh. Or is it?

My blue eyes go back to Scandanavia when Vikings invaded Ireland, my distinctive facial features go back to Germany before the Anglo Saxons invaded BRitain.
My thick eyebrows go back to my Scottish Highlander ancestors who were descended from Picts. My stout build goes back back back to my ancestors who crossed to Ireland from the Iberian peninsula 2,000+ years ago. As someone from the British Isles, I am guarenteed to be of the 'less pure' Europeans.

As a 5th generation AUstralian/New Zealander with an exclusive Brythonic Irish background, I am far from pure. "Whiteness" is not a collection of cultures, it's a badge of supremacy, One I refuse to wear.

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One of the reasons why white nationalism is a smokescreen for white supremacy is because of the KKK. It is a "white nationalist" group, when in truth, even if it has nationalist principles (and these don't differ in hatred filled supremacy rhetoric), it is essentially a group that grossly dislikes, degrades (through insults; calling people beasts, etc)), and discriminates against members of different ethnic groups that they don't like.

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They are all different.

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On the topic of IQ, as long as the Flynn effect continues to exist, we will see an increase in IQ in impoverished peoples.

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It has been studied and concluded that over 50% of intelligence differences between races are genetic.

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"mixing together in the future", is something that will ultimately happen when one chooses to live in such a place.

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Honestly, I would not want to live in a 'White Superstate', because what define it would be the hardest to determine.

To what extent would Latin Americans be allowed in? Would they need blood tests? 90% of Argentina is white, so is 60% of Brasil and 10% of Mexico. How would they be screened for their 'purity'.

And as Fantazia said, nothing is pure you WN fucking moron. I'm completely European, 150 years of my family being outside Europe there has not been one 'dark' ancestor. In fact, 100% of my ancestors lived in the British Isles 200 years ago, so my entire lineage is comprised of British, Scottish, Irish and Welsh. Or is it?

My blue eyes go back to Scandanavia when Vikings invaded Ireland, my distinctive facial features go back to Germany before the Anglo Saxons invaded BRitain.
My thick eyebrows go back to my Scottish Highlander ancestors who were descended from Picts. My stout build goes back back back to my ancestors who crossed to Ireland from the Iberian peninsula 2,000+ years ago. As someone from the British Isles, I am guarenteed to be of the 'less pure' Europeans.

As a 5th generation AUstralian/New Zealander with an exclusive Brythonic Irish background, I am far from pure. "Whiteness" is not a collection of cultures, it's a badge of supremacy, One I refuse to wear.

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No, they aren't perfect, but I'm not speaking of "Purity" either - somehow you got THAT idea.

White isn't really that hard to determine either. White is more or less indo-European, AKA Nordics and Mediteranneans and their mixtures (Alpine, Baltic, Dinaric, etc)

And where did you get the "Less pure European" idea from?

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Genetic tests can prove it.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:26 pm on Nov. 19, 2008

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Genetic tests can prove it.

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You're willing to live iwth the possiblity of a 10% eror in testing? You're willing to risk your precious race being accidentally xposed to some nonwhites and suddenly ending up with balck babies from white parents?

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you know in my opinion there is no point to it. There will be no complete exstinction of one race. Give it up. you know? People dont realize that we are no and endangered people so we arent going anywhere anytime soon. So kkk, storm front, and whoever has a pointless mission.

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