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Replies: 51Last Post Nov. 17, 2008 6:21am by Prince o palities
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I've told members to fuck off before so I see no issue with it at all unless if you made the same post to him he'd delete it. He didn't delete "you don't know what smog is."

I thought you meanthe was harassing you in pm.

Considering his relationship with you maybe it's not appropriate but by itself this is not a big deal. In my opinion.

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I am confused. I know there is bad blood on both sides in this argument.

Could someone start at the beginnning who knows the story?

(bearsy, let someone else explain it if they can, so its as bias free as possible).

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Quote: from medjai at 2:40 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

I've told members to fuck off before so I see no issue with it at all unless if you made the same post to him he'd delete it. He didn't delete "you don't know what smog is."

I thought you meanthe was harassing you in pm.

Considering his relationship with you maybe it's not appropriate but by itself this is not a big deal. In my opinion.


It is the telling her to fuck off, then directly after messaging her calling her a retard.  As Jordan is a moderator, Bearsy cannot block him for calling her a retard after personally attacking her in a topic.  I'd like to know what is up with this.

Post edited at 4:57 pm on Nov. 15, 2008 by wOlF

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Quote: from medjai at 10:47 am on Nov. 15, 2008

Wait is this about me, any member can block me by saying "don't message me" believe me I will lol.
they can't say it if you blocked them

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In the initial post you did egg him on Bearsy, he could easily have kept replying to the topic instead, I could reasonably see that he forgot you were blocked and he was not.

Individually there is not much there to border on harassment at all, we're making a mountain of an ant hill.

Solution: Don't interact with each other (this includes you Bearsy the onus isn't all just on FP), and if necessary (though I'm against this right now), any moderation that Jordan wants to take about, or concerning you should be relayed to another moderator instead.

Post edited at 12:07 am on Nov. 16, 2008 by Rastafarian

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Maybe you really deserved it? Just because they're mods doesn't mean you're no stupid.

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Ok even though it's no secret FP hates you as far as I've seen other than this he has pretty much left you alone.

Obviously he shouldn't be harassing members he has blocked through pm, though. He may have forgotten, either way he shouldn't use pm just to tell a member she's retarded. It's petty and weird, especially if its one sided like that.

Anyway I'll wait for FP's response.

I don't really care if FP doesn't like you as long as he's not using mod powers against you because of it. I was under the impression that he stopped or was showing a lot more discretion.

By the way I think if mods can ignore members members should be able to ignore mods. If a member put all active mods on ignore it's their risk of not getting their informal warning, their choice to not have that courtesy.

To me this doesn't seem like a big deal but FP needs to respond and explain

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Quote: from medjai at 2:59 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

Ok even though it's no secret FP hates you as far as I've seen other than this he has pretty much left you alone.

Obviously he shouldn't be harassing members he has blocked through pm, though. He may have forgotten, either way he shouldn't use pm just to tell a member she's retarded. It's petty and weird, especially if its one sided like that.

Anyway I'll wait for FP's response.

I don't really care if FP doesn't like you as long as he's not using mod powers against you because of it. I was under the impression that he stopped or was showing a lot more discretion.

By the way I think if mods can ignore members members should be able to ignore mods. If a member put all active mods on ignore it's their risk of not getting their informal warning, their choice to not have that courtesy.

To me this doesn't seem like a big deal but FP needs to respond and explain


As for the blocking, I had genuinely forgotten. In fact, I was waiting for a response. So no, I wasn't messaging you simply so I could get the last word. And I sent you a PM because the topic was no place for a little spat.

To be quite honest, ever since Jared personally asked, I have completely ignored you. I, to my knowledge, have not messaged you, replied to your topics, or quoted you. I have completely backed off. But when I make a decent reply, completely correct and on topic, then you sweep in all high and mighty and accuse me of being incorrect, especially since this is a trend, I get bitter.

Mods are members. I have not harassed you, and I've backed off since asked, until you brought it on yourself. I have not made you a regular target, since I've avoided you. I've used no mod abilities against you unreasonably; I even left the misconduct report open for someone else to close. I have been completely reasonable. But quite frankly Bearsy, I've had enough.

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 4:37 pm on Nov. 16, 2008

Quote: from medjai at 2:59 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

Ok even though it's no secret FP hates you as far as I've seen other than this he has pretty much left you alone.  

 Obviously he shouldn't be harassing members he has blocked through pm, though. He may have forgotten, either way he shouldn't use pm just to tell a member she's retarded. It's petty and weird, especially if its one sided like that.  

 Anyway I'll wait for FP's response.  

 I don't really care if FP doesn't like you as long as he's not using mod powers against you because of it. I was under the impression that he stopped or was showing a lot more discretion.  

 By the way I think if mods can ignore members members should be able to ignore mods. If a member put all active mods on ignore it's their risk of not getting their informal warning, their choice to not have that courtesy.  

 To me this doesn't seem like a big deal but FP needs to respond and explain


As for the blocking, I had genuinely forgotten. In fact, I was waiting for a response. So no, I wasn't messaging you simply so I could get the last word. And I sent you a PM because the topic was no place for a little spat.

To be quite honest, ever since Jared personally asked, I have completely ignored you. I, to my knowledge, have not messaged you, replied to your topics, or quoted you. I have completely backed off. But when I make a decent reply, completely correct and on topic, then you sweep in all high and mighty and accuse me of being incorrect, especially since this is a trend, I get bitter.

Mods are members. I have not harassed you, and I've backed off since asked, until you brought it on yourself. I have not made you a regular target, since I've avoided you. I've used no mod abilities against you unreasonably; I even left the misconduct report open for someone else to close. I have been completely reasonable. But quite frankly Bearsy, I've had enough.

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all she said was "you dont know what smog is" and then she admitted that she made a mistake
you overreacted

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Quote: from rosebud at 10:43 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

all she said was "you dont know what smog is" and then she admitted that she made a mistake
you overreacted

The situation is much bigger than just this post...

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 4:46 pm on Nov. 16, 2008

Quote: from rosebud at 10:43 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

all she said was "you dont know what smog is" and then she admitted that she made a mistake  
 you overreacted

The situation is much bigger than just this post...

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i'm talking about the isolated incident that this topic is about, not the extreme blood feud to the max that you two have got going on

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Quote: from rosebud at 10:49 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

i'm talking about the isolated incident that this topic is about, not the extreme blood feud to the max that you two have got going on

I don't think over reaction is against any rules. There was no harassment of any sort, or any other rule breaking. I told an annoying member to fuck off. As far as rules, no big deal. And you're the last person I'd expect to get all up in arms over behavior like that.

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 4:51 pm on Nov. 16, 2008

Quote: from rosebud at 10:49 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

i'm talking about the isolated incident that this topic is about, not the extreme blood feud to the max that you two have got going on

I don't think over reaction is against any rules. There was no harassment of any sort, or any other rule breaking. I told an annoying member to fuck off. As far as rules, no big deal. And you're the last person I'd expect to get all up in arms over behavior like that.

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it's not against the rules. as a moderator you should do better, and you don't get to take the moral high ground when you are the one who is in the wrong in this case. that's all i'm saying.
you may notice that in this topic all she is asking is for you not to send her rude name-calling messages. is that a fair request, or is it not?

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Quote: from rosebud at 10:53 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

Quote: from FurryPanther at 4:51 pm on Nov. 16, 2008

Quote: from rosebud at 10:49 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

i'm talking about the isolated incident that this topic is about, not the extreme blood feud to the max that you two have got going on
 

 I don't think over reaction is against any rules. There was no harassment of any sort, or any other rule breaking. I told an annoying member to fuck off. As far as rules, no big deal. And you're the last person I'd expect to get all up in arms over behavior like that.  

 FP


it's not against the rules. as a moderator you should do better, and you don't get to take the moral high ground when you are the one who is in the wrong in this case. that's all i'm saying.
you may notice that in this topic all she is asking is for you not to send her rude name-calling messages. is that a fair request, or is it not?


I've ignored her for weeks while she's gone out of her way to goad me into confrontation. I'm not apologizing for giving her what she's been working so hard to get.

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Quote: from FurryPanther at 4:56 pm on Nov. 16, 2008

I've ignored her for weeks while she's gone out of her way to goad me into confrontation. I'm not apologizing for giving her what she's been working so hard to get.

FP


Quote: from FurryPanther at 5:29 am on Nov. 16, 2008


Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 11:28 am on Nov. 15, 2008

I was thinking of fog.

Oh, good recovery. Maybe next time you should use that over glorified intellect which you claim to have, and actually pay attention.

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she admits her fault, why couldnt it end there? if you were really trying to ignore her you would have let it go at that point

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