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Quote: from MystiqueBeauty16 at 11:11 pm on Nov. 11, 2008

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Neither.  

 We didn't evolve from monkeys and we weren't created by a mystical being.  

 Who the hell knows or cares why we're here, we're all going to die one day anyways.  

 THINK POSITIVE.

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Evolution occurs everywhere. There are greats amounts of scientific data supporting Evolution...and evolution does not mean "evolving from monkeys"  

Even with that great amount of data, there is no proven fact in science that states it 100% true. In science, nothing is fully proven.  

I do agree with you though, the actual background to where we came from is vague. I don't care about it overall.

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I know. I'm just sick of scientists claiming that we come from monkeys. While it is true we might have evolved, I am almost positive we are not descended from monkeys.

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Quote: from Minnick at 11:25 pm on Nov. 11, 2008

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Quote: from MystiqueBeauty16 at 11:11 pm on Nov. 11, 2008

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Neither.

  We didn't evolve from monkeys and we weren't created by a mystical being.

  Who the hell knows or cares why we're here, we're all going to die one day anyways.

  THINK POSITIVE.

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 Evolution occurs everywhere. There are greats amounts of scientific data supporting Evolution...and evolution does not mean "evolving from monkeys"

 Even with that great amount of data, there is no proven fact in science that states it 100% true. In science, nothing is fully proven.

 I do agree with you though, the actual background to where we came from is vague. I don't care about it overall.

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I know. I'm just sick of scientists claiming that we come from monkeys. While it is true we might have evolved, I am almost positive we are not descended from monkeys.

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Understandably. They did contribute...but they weren't the soul reasoning behind evolution. Evolution it self is a large process. I'm learning about it in science right now actually. Whales evolved from land mammals. The animals they evolved from wolf like. If you watch how whales and dolphins swim in the ocean, it's the same structure of basis that a dog runs on land. They don't swim like "fish"

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Quote: from Minnick at 11:25 pm on Nov. 11, 2008

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Quote: from MystiqueBeauty16 at 11:11 pm on Nov. 11, 2008

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Neither.

  We didn't evolve from monkeys and we weren't created by a mystical being.

  Who the hell knows or cares why we're here, we're all going to die one day anyways.

  THINK POSITIVE.

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 Evolution occurs everywhere. There are greats amounts of scientific data supporting Evolution...and evolution does not mean "evolving from monkeys"

 Even with that great amount of data, there is no proven fact in science that states it 100% true. In science, nothing is fully proven.

 I do agree with you though, the actual background to where we came from is vague. I don't care about it overall.

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I know. I'm just sick of scientists claiming that we come from monkeys. While it is true we might have evolved, I am almost positive we are not descended from monkeys.

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we are, scientific fact, deal with it

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Who the hell knows or cares why we're here, we're all going to die one day anyways.

THINK POSITIVE.

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lmfao. oxymoron much?

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Quote: from MystiqueBeauty16 at 11:11 pm on Nov. 11, 2008

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Who the hell knows or cares why we're here, we're all going to die one day anyways.  

 THINK POSITIVE.

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lmfao. oxymoron much?

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Exactly.

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Big bang doesnt have evidence beyond reasonable doubt, there are still holes in the theory.

I believe God created the universe. And through Jesus all things were made. How that plays out exactly, I;m not sure.
Big bang?
Perhaps

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Goodbye LW! 2 things to leave you with- 1 the points dont matter
2. There should be able to have topics within groups

and the big bang.. well.. that's just about the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

[just sayin]

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p.s. i don't believe in either. Jesus did NOT create the universe, GOD did. Jesus was his son, durr.

and the big bang.. well.. that's just about the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

[just sayin]

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You must ride the short bus, huh?

According to Christianity, Jesus = God the Son, and no tradition of Christianity believes that the world was not created through Jesus somehow.

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I say the big bang theory, all the evidense is there. Sorry to the people who disagree.

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Okay so you ask the question "Jesus or Evolution?"

Followed by "I believe in the big bang theory"

Do I even really have to point out God/Jesus, Evolution, Big Bang NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

I guess I do.

God/Jesus could exist, and still have created the big bang.

God/Jesus could exist, and evolution could also coexist.

The big bang and evolution are not interrelated concepts.

One could have happened like evolution (the more provable of the two) while the other might not have.

Or both.
Or neither.
Or all three.

Your logic it boggles me in how illogical it is.

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Ever!

It is all relative to what we know. Science is not a solid state. It is fluid. It changes with new knowledge and observations.

What  we know as the truth is only the closest, observable, factual, generally accepted, and proven truth.

It is always subject to change.

Always.

Even if the big bang occurred. Science in theory can't ever scientifically prove it. Because science uses quantitative data. Astrophysicists can only get infinitesimally close to the event, but even then we cannot describe the exact point in time or any point before then. Because the mathematics of physics is only manipulating quantitative measurements which in theory didn't exist before or at the instant of the big bang. Time and space would not have existed and as such our measurements of time and space cannot be used to create an equation to describe the event. Because the data that we manipulate wouldn't have existed, how can one manipulate nothingness. Time and space are correlated and would have been conceived and expanded from that instant. As such there is no way to describe or prove the big bang even if it is the most likely scenario. It cannot be proven down to the exact instant factually ever. It would be impossible.

And even if it can be done.

What  we know as the truth is only the closest, observable, factual, generally accepted, and proven truth.

It is always subject to change.

Always.

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Faith in a holy cause is to a considerable extent a substitute
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Quote: from phosphorescence at 2:29 pm on Nov. 12, 2008

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p.s. i don't believe in either. Jesus did NOT create the universe, GOD did. Jesus was his son, durr.  

 and the big bang.. well.. that's just about the stupidest thing i've ever heard.  

 [just sayin]

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You must ride the short bus, huh?

According to Christianity, Jesus = God the Son, and no tradition of Christianity believes that the world was not created through Jesus somehow.

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calm down, sweety. i said it's what iii believe. try not to get too offended by a 100lb girl

and according to what i believe, yes the father the son and the holy spirit is a trinity, therefore they're one being. but technically, Jesus was the NAME of the perfect man who walked the earth, and died so that we could have a happy ending. God is the higher being that created the universe and everything in it, etc.

idk about you, but i tend to refer to Jesus by his name, and call the creator "God".

but it's ok, believe what you'd like. i promise i won't get mad :[

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While many people doubt the story of creation, I will admit that I believe it t be true to an extent. I must at this point make clear that I do not consider myself a creationist.
The bible tells us that in the beginning there was nothing. Science says this also. Then what? A monumental explosion kick started everything that we know today, but who lit the touch paper? Every bomb or explosion has a source of detonation. For me this has to be God

The bible then tells us that everything we know today was created in 7 days. This is all well and good but anyone with half a brain would know that such a statement is impossible. Or is it?
What is a day? Well fundamentally it's a unit of time. On earth it's 24 hours, yet on Jupiter it's 9.3 Earth hours and rather strangely, on Venus it's longer than it's year. Get your head around that! This to me signifies that "the 7 days" could be billions of years or nanoseconds. It's just too much for us to fathom. However my personal beliefs are that each day in Genesis is an age.

Next we come to the sea. God populated the seas with living creatures. The bible doesn't lie, factually this is true too. We know that all life on earth started in the oceans from the primordial soup. From this, the birds filled the air and beasts walked on the land. Again fact is written in the texts.

In genesis it continues to say that on the 6th Day God created man in his own likeness with instructions to populate the earth, to be fruitful and to subdue it.
All this seems very black and white with it's days. We know the evolution took time, and between each day there is that period. Night. This is the time where we grow and develop when our bodies are at rest. As we have said already, a day is an immensely long time so as sure as eggs are eggs, the nights would be too!

Finally we get to the tricky bit. In scripture it says that on the 7th day  God rested. As a Christian I know that God is at work, right here and now, and that he has been since Man existed. So I will leave you to ponder this. Has the 7th day happened yet and when it does will that be it?


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I'm just sick of scientists claiming that we come from monkeys.

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The theory isn't exactly 'evolution from primates', but 'evolution from bacterium'. It was ignorance, and sheer stupidity (if you ask me) that placed monkies as the basis for human evolution.

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