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Maybe this 69 year old lady should have had a pistol with her cross?
Replies: 73Last Post Nov. 22, 2008 3:13pm by PrideAndJoy
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A better example would be for a gay male to purposefully ask out a straight male in front of his straight friends, then being surprised when that straight male shoots him...

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Quote: from football at 1:43 pm on Nov. 13, 2008

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Quote: from GeneCosta at 7:46 pm on Nov. 12, 2008

She was parading between the protesters. That was stupid.
   

   Seriously.    

   She was begging for something to happen.    

   I wouldn't show up at a Black Panther rally wearing a pointy white hood and not expect things to end badly.


 

  Nobody is acting like what happened was a surprise, but the fact that you could have predicted that gays rights activists would freak to the point of becoming violent to somebody who dares to have a different opinion than theirs does not in any way justify their actions.


 
 I think you'd have a point if they approached her.  But from the video it seems it was she who provoked them.  While I'm not a fan of what they did, it is a bit of a stretch to feel bad for that woman.

 
Like I said, maybe she shouldn't have gone there, but that still doesn't justify those people. That's no different than saying that if a woman is walking down the street alone at night and gets raped, it's her fault and the rapist was justified because she was asking for it by putting herself in that position. No it wasn't a good idea for her to be there, but that doesn't make what the other person did any less wrong.



That's not a fair analogy, a rape analogy in itself is not a fair analogy.  But perhaps walking down a dark alley in a mini skirt fully aware of the rapist would be a more appropriate yet still flawed one.  While it doesn't excuse those people; who in there right mind would do such a thing?  She only made them angrier and more unruly.

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They were acting like savages ...somebody called the S.W.A.T teap so they could bring law and order.

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Right. Because dressing to one's preferences and throwing yourself in between a crowd of opposition protesters are totally similar.

If I a punch someone in the eye, I can expect that other person to reciprocate.

The woman wasn't even harmed. She had her cross taken and thrown to the ground. I'll cry some tears later.

Post edited at 7:42 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 by GeneCosta

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At first, my response to this was going to be fairly similar to Power Girl's. Obviously, not all of those opposed to Prop 8 are folks who would be that rude.

And then I started reading the responses to this post and I'm starting to see abs' point and almost agree with the general idea.

I feel sullied and unusual now.

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Wow, let's make generalizations based on the actions of a few select individuals.

Some of you have to be the most irritating individuals alive. It doesn't then surprise me that you must rely on internet forums as your only source of friendship.


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Quote: from GeneCosta at 3:40 pm on Nov. 14, 2008

Right. Because dressing to one's preferences and throwing yourself in between a crowd of opposition protesters are totally similar.

If I a punch someone in the eye, I can expect that other person to reciprocate.

The woman wasn't even harmed. She had her cross taken and thrown to the ground. I'll cry some tears later.



But she didn't punch anybody in the face. An accurate analogy would be if you punched somebody in the face and they shot you in the head. Would they be justified because you provoked them?


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So she should answer an attack with killing?

Guess next time I'm getting punched for being a wetback I should just shoot the bastard?

Post edited at 12:03 am on Nov. 15, 2008 by jakelong

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Quote: from Savior at 3:31 pm on Nov. 12, 2008

What would Jesus do?
Turn the other cheek

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Quote: from jakelong at 7:59 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

So she should answer an attack with killing?

Guess next time I'm getting punched for being a wetback I should just shoot the bastard?



Please read the entire thread, so you know what context to put what you are reading in.


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Wait I'm not answering to this?


Maybe this 69 year old lady should have had a pistol with her cross?


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Quote: from jakelong at 8:48 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

Wait I'm not answering to this?


Maybe this 69 year old lady should have had a pistol with her cross?

Alright my bad. I thought you were talking to me. Sorry.


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Quote: from Savior at 5:31 pm on Nov. 12, 2008

What would Jesus do?

Duh, antagonize.

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Quote: from football at 1:31 pm on Nov. 15, 2008

Alright my bad. I thought you were talking to me. Sorry.
Np man.  

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Quote: from Mikkilla at 12:15 am on Nov. 13, 2008

Oh boo hoo, lets feel bad for some old lady who obviously went there to start shit/express hate. I sure as hell wouldn't go to a black crowd wearing a KKK outfit   Darn those black people for pushing him :(
Why do you say she "obviously" wanted to "start shit/express hate"? I think your prejudice is showing.

Are you assuming that all gays look at a cross in the same way that all blacks see the KKK? That's rather ridiculous, isn't it? And a bit more of your prejudice.

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