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Jesus (A.S.) In Islam
Replies: 69Last Post Oct. 17, 2008 7:05pm by charmgirl
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Muslims do believe that Isa (A.S.) was sent down as a Prophet of Allah (God), but he (Jesus) is not God or Lord, nor the son of God. Muslims do not believe that Isa (A.S.), also known as Jesus by Christians and others, is dead or was ever crucified. We believe that he was raised to heaven and is there, and will descend at the appointed time, end all wars, and bring peace to the world. Like Jesus (A.S.), Muhammad (Peace be upon him) is also a Prophet and Messenger. Muhammed (P.B.U.H.) is the last Prophet, though, and there is none after him. Hence, Islam is the last religion, complete, with the Holy Qur'an as the unchanged and perfect word of God for over 1400 years, as God promised to preserve it till the last day for all of humankind, unlike sacred texts of other religions which have mulitple versions and are "revised" periodically. God, or Allah in Arabic, is Divine and Supreme Being and Creator.

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it's all the same to me, but each specifies that we shall love our fellow man, so they all fail.

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We know that.

What I'd like to know is what makes the Muslim's view of Jesus any more valid than the Christians'?

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*{And their saying [is] 'we slew the Messiah, Jesus Son of Mary, Allah's messenger' - They slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them. And those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture. For of a surety they slew him not; but Allah took him up to Himself. Allah is Almighty [and] All-Wise.

And there is none of the people of the Book [the Jews and Christians] but will believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Resurrection he will be a witness against them.}* (An-Nisaa' 4:157-159)

Sadak Allahu alazim

So Jesus (A.S) was saved and raised up to Heaven by Allah (The Almighty)

*{He [Allah] has ordained for you the same religion as that which He ordained to Noah, and that which We inspired in you [Muhammad], and that which We ordained to Abraham and Moses and Jesus, saying: Establish the religion, and make no divisions therein. To those who worship other things than Allah, dreadful is that to which you call them. Allah chooses for Himself whom He will, and guides to Himself him who turns [in repentance to Him].}* (Az-Zukhruf 42:13)

Muslims believe Jesus Christ to be one of the great prophets of God and hold that all prophets are brothers and that their religion is the same, namely, Islam.


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Quote: from charmgirl at 6:30 pm on Oct. 12, 2008

*{And their saying [is] 'we slew the Messiah, Jesus Son of Mary, Allah's messenger' - They slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them. And those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture. For of a surety they slew him not; but Allah took him up to Himself. Allah is Almighty [and] All-Wise.

And there is none of the people of the Book [the Jews and Christians] but will believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Resurrection he will be a witness against them.}* (An-Nisaa' 4:157-159)

Sadak Allahu alazim

So Jesus (A.S) was saved and raised up to Heaven by Allah (The Almighty)

*{He [Allah] has ordained for you the same religion as that which He ordained to Noah, and that which We inspired in you [Muhammad], and that which We ordained to Abraham and Moses and Jesus, saying: Establish the religion, and make no divisions therein. To those who worship other things than Allah, dreadful is that to which you call them. Allah chooses for Himself whom He will, and guides to Himself him who turns [in repentance to Him].}* (Az-Zukhruf 42:13)

Muslims believe Jesus Christ to be one of the great prophets of God and hold that all prophets are brothers and that their religion is the same, namely, Islam.


Wonderful.

This still doesn't answer my question. What makes Islam's interpretation of Jesus more valid than Christianity's?

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Muslims respect Jesus very much as he's the second-last prophet.Islam is the last Religion and its Message is true and sent to All Humanity.

Jesus' true name, according to the Qur'an, was 'Isa. His message was pure Islam, surrender to Allah. (Āl 'Imran 3:84) Like all the Muslim prophets before him, and like Muhammad after him, 'Isa was a lawgiver, and Christians should submit to his law. (Āl 'Imran 3:50; Al-Ma'idah 5:48) 'Isa's original disciples were also true Muslims, for they said 'We believe. Bear witness that we have surrendered. We are Muslims.' (Al-Ma'idah 5:111)

Like other messengers of Islam before him, 'Isa received his revelation of Islam in the form of a book. (Al-An'am 6:90) 'Isa's book is called the Injil or 'gospel'. (Al-Ma'idah 5:46) The Torah was Moses' book, and the Zabur (Psalms) were David's book. So Jews and Christians are 'people of the Book'. The one religion revealed in these books was Islam. (Āl 'Imran 3:18)

As with previous prophets, 'Isa's revelation verified previous prophets' revelations. (Āl 'Imran 3:49,84; Al-Ma'idah 5:46; As-Saff 61:6) Muhammad himself verified all previous revelations, including the revelation to 'Isa (An-Nisa' 4:47), and so Muslims must believe in the revelation which 'Isa received. (Al-Baqarah 2:136) However, after 'Isa the Injil was lost in its original form. Today the Qur'an is the only sure guide to 'Isa's teaching.

Christians and Jews have corrupted their scriptures. (Āl 'Imran 3:74-77, 113) Although Christians believe 'Isa died on a cross, and Jews claim they killed him, in reality he was not killed or crucified, and those who said he was crucified lied (An-Nisa' 4:157). 'Isa did not die, but ascended to Allah. (An-Nisa' 4:158) On the day of Resurrection 'Isa himself will be a witness against Jews and Christians for believing in his death. (An-Nisa' 4:159)

Some Christians and Jews are faithful and believe truly. (Āl 'Imran 3:113,114) Any such true believers will submit to Allah by accepting Muhammad as the prophet of Islam, i.e. they will become Muslims. (Āl 'Imran 3:198)

Although Jews and pagans will have the greatest enmity against Muslims, it is the Christians who will be 'nearest in love to the believers', i.e. to Muslims. (Al-Ma'idah 5:82) True Christians will not love Muhammad's enemies. (Al-Mujadilah 58:22) In other words, anyone who opposes Muhammad is not a true Christian.

If you believe in Qura'n,you'll find all this Understandable.And thats why Islam's interpratation is more valid than Christianity's.


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Saying "The Qu'ran is more valid than the Bible or the Torah because the Qu'ran says that it's more valid than the Bible or Torah" does not answer my question. It instead merely furthers my rather founded belief that Muslims on the internet (note, for those of you about to say "OMG BIGOT!": the Muslims I know in real life are intelligent, articulate and can answer this question without saying "The Qu'ran is true because the Qu'ran says it's true!" I'm merely referring to Muslims on the internet) are all brainwashed.

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Just because i am not saying what u believe doesnt mean its not true,its all in GOD'S WILL.Islam's message is simple "theres only one God and Muhammad is his Messenger". whats ur idea about Religion and God so i can help better?

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No. The Flying Spaghetti Monster created the world. The end.

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Quote: from charmgirl at 8:37 am on Oct. 14, 2008

Just because i am not saying what u believe doesnt mean its not true,its all in GOD'S WILL.Islam's message is simple "theres only one God and Muhammad is his Messenger". whats ur idea about Religion and God so i can help better?

Well, no, I'm not going to think your ideas are true no matter what you say. My problem is that you're essentially saying "Islam is true because Islam teaches that Islam is true." That's kind of like me saying, "I'm right because I say I'm right." It won't convince anybody.

Now, try to give me a reason why Islam's interpretation of Jesus is more valid than Christianity's, without using the Qu'ran.

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Quote: from JohnTheNormalOne at 3:50 pm on Oct. 14, 2008

No. The Flying Spaghetti Monster created the world. The end.

I beg your Parton ?


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Death is the end of any humanbeing's life.I agree with all people on that,but Jesus is a messenger and so he had to deliver The Message to his people.The Rich Tribes of (beit Lahm) didn't believe him and they challenged him,only to keep their high position between the other Tribes.Only a "few" poor people believed.Those Rich Tribes took  poor 's money,saying that there's no damn life after death,no heaven,no hell so we're free to do anything with our Life.

See?

They didn't even give him a chance to talk about it.

Jesus(Isa) didn't care,he kept on delivering The Message to the poor as they were the only one who accepted and welcomed him.Jesus (Isa) 's popularity is now unbelievable.Priests and Rich ppl held grudge for him.They even convinced the Leader of all tribes to kill him as he's a threat to their safety and place.They thought they killed him but they didn't,it was a man that looked alike him like hell,it was a Miracle.

so you want a proof that's he's dead,i got a another proof to you that you still don't believe,have you ever seen a book without a writer? i guess not.Well Qur'an is Unique.

Second,Muhammad was not literate and so don't say that Qur'an is not a Miracle itself because it was the book which has been given to him..
Give me a one verse in Bible in which Jesus announce that he's God himself!


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charmgirl, is English your first language?

Furthermore, you've still managed to not answer my question without using the Qu'ran.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 7:18 pm on Oct. 14, 2008

charmgirl, is English your first language?

Furthermore, you've still managed to not answer my question without using the Qu'ran.


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